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None of you have came up with any arguments, so what logic am I supposed to let in? I never said I knew everything, I only said we shouldn't let in terrorists or disarm our citizens.
The US do not let terroist in, never have never will, the US does not disarm their citizens, have not in a very long time, and I highly doubt that we ever will.
We are, right now, we call them "Syrian refugee's"
That is not millions of terrorist.
They are highly vetted, and refugees in the US have historically show to be more law abiding causing less crime including murder, then born in the US citizens cause.
There are far FAR! easier ways for a terrorist to get into the US then through being a Syrian refugee. Including just walking across the border in 100's of logging roads crisscrossing the US Canada border that are not monitored.
Historically the US has let in people from Europe and Latin America. Millions of heavily indoctrinated Islamists from some backwards part of the world with an average IQ of 83- not a good plan. Also they are not vetted at all.
Oh we are talking history now? Not Syrian refugees anymore?
Still wont find millions of terrorists, even in all of our history.
But in some senses, you are right, In our history there was lots of "terrorists", they just were not islamist, they were mostly some derivation of christians. They came in, took over, killed nearly everyone and everything in sight that resisted, forced the people that lived here to accept their particular ideals and religion or just wipe them out. They wiped out most of the animals and forest in short order. Then they stole and enslaved more people to work the land they stole. That is US/North America history for you.
IQ of 83... lol did you make that up or did you regurgitate that from someone else that made that up?
What line of thinking? Logic?
You're not seeing the big picture that's all. I'm not being hostile about it. Just saying.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/us/refugee-terrorism-trnd/
http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/feb/01/ted-lieu/odd...
Heres some truth about refugees. Can you have a Logical response or is your line of thinking just racist?
CNN and politifact? This has nothing to do wit acism, if you wanted to import Caucasian terrorists from Europe I would tell you you're nuts.
Well I don't want to import Caucasian or any type of terrorist, so yay I'm not nuts:) Do you have any sources saying these refugees have pulled off terrorist attack in the USA? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO you don't
Google Columbus Ohio, November 28, 2016 and St. Cloud, Minnesota, September 17, 2016.
They also raped a 5 year old girl.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/sexu...
I read the 5 year old girl story and I would say I was more concerned about what was happening to the refugees there.
This girl gave or received oral sex from a 7 year old boy. She was also urinated on. Older brothers were taking pic with phone. That is awful that little boy did that.
Here's the Little's girls mom described:
"For “Lori” (not her real name), the mother of the allegedly victimized 5-year-old girl, the narrative about Muslim predation makes sense of what has happened to her family. A stay-at-home mom who also has a son with autism, Lori told me via text that she has serious physical and psychological difficulties, including autoimmune hepatitis and debilitating anxiety. Over the course of the five days I spent in Twin Falls, she agreed to meet with me several times, but each time either canceled or temporarily stopped responding to messages. At the same time, she occasionally texted me unprompted and suggested I friend her on Facebook. Since June 2, her feed had been full of stories from conservative sites about Muslim violence. Said one of her texts: “In the USA you have to follow our laws and obviously him raping my daughter in their country is OK.” (I have corrected her spelling and punctuation.)"
Iraqi 7 year old boy and mom:
The Iraqi boy’s mother is a widow, he told me, and has five other children. The Eritrean boys have since been released into their family’s custody, but Eujayl said that the family is struggling since the eviction from Fawnbrook. Without a reference from their previous landlord, they couldn’t rent a new apartment, and with the court case ongoing, they had to stay in town. They were living in another family’s basement. All the boys are being represented by public defenders, but the public defenders’ office won’t release their lawyers’ names. According to Loebs, they technically face a maximum penalty of confinement in juvenile detention until age 21, though he adds that with “minors this young that is almost unheard of.”
So much hate is being stir up in that town because of this. Riots rally's hate acts.
Im not claiming your racist Harry. Im sorry if I worded it that way.
We Do import White Terrorist. They are called Russians!
You went full retard again myckob- Russians are not terrorists, you actually remind me of this guy:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=83tnWFojtcY
Harry
You remind me of this guy
https://youtu.be/371FxceOb-Y
You don't think people that traffic in prostitution drugs and extortion isn't terrorism? Don't you think that Russian gangs are not terrorist? Do you even know the illegal arms deals that they make?
You are delusional.
That doesn't even account for the Albanians, Romanians, and other Eastern European gangs that are actually terrorist!
If you live in the US, I understand how you think that only terror attacks in the US matter. I live in Europe and we have had terror attacks by refugees (very few though). The rest have been children or grandchildren of immigrants.
The main problem is that we (= western Europe) have utterly failed to integrate the previous Muslim immigration waves. They live segregated lives separate from the old non-Muslim population. You can say that the reason for that is racism, but that is still not a solution. I see no reason to expect this new wave of Muslim immigration to integrate any better than the old ones.
If we are so bad at integrating Muslims to our societies that their children turn to terrorism or go to fight for ISIS, maybe we should try to help them in their home countries instead?
(One obscure fact: we have a tiny minority of Muslims who immigrated from around the Black Sea in the 1800s. They are completely integrated - you would never know who belongs to this group. They are quite scared about these new Muslims and their much more fundamentalist Islam.)
http://people.com/crime/6-year-old-goes-facebook-gun-violence-video/?xid...
Check out this kid Harry
Well that is more or less the way things worked before there were labor laws.
It was supposed to be far fetched and hysterical- I'm referring to wage controls, not child labor laws.
So you're in favor of child labor laws?!? You socialist!
What are you referring to? I am for voluntary association- a child cannot agree to work for someone.
See? You're a nanny-state socialist!
Socialism refers to an economic system in which the government controls the economy- and a nanny state refers to when the state attempts to protect responsible adults from their own decisions- neither of this has any relation to prohibiting the enslavement of children.
@Harry Truman
Actually, what you described is State Capitalism as documented by the following from Wikipedia:
If you want to know what actual socialism is -- ask a socialist and NOT those who "think" they know what socialism is. I have been a socialist for more years than you have lived. Here is what real socialism really is:
Read the definition of socialism, it means putting the control over the means of production into the hands of the "collective," which most times means the state.
@ Harry Truman
Well, it's evident that you have difficulty reading comprehension because my prior post addressed this issue under the Key Principles.
There is NO STATE under real, authentic socialism. I suggest reading the following article: https://www.socialismuntangled.com/no-state
You see, the problem is that you think (from reading and studying false narratives and "alternative facts" that Russia, China, etc. were/are examples of socialism/communism. That is entirely false since these were/are examples of societies under State Capitalism as explained in my prior post provided by the Wikipedia reference.
Concerning your comment on common ownership, the principle of common ownership under socialism is outlined below:
I suggest that you learn what you are talking about before posting. Doing so will prevent you from appearing to be uneducated and ignorant. You do not have to agree with socialism but at least make an attempt to counter it based on facts -- not lies.
That's communism, were talking about socialism:
"a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
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