13 years old, agnostic, and I still fear hell

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Sir Random's picture
Morals come from society. As

Morals come from society. As society changes, morality changes. It is fluid.

Harry33Truman's picture
So if 100 years from now FGM

So if 100 years from now FGM was practiced around the world it would be moral? Moral relativism, my friend, it is sickening.

Sir Random's picture
Well, look at today. Just 60

Well, look at today. Just 60 years ago anyone who was not a heterosexual was considered immoral. These days that is finally changing. I.e: morality is changing, right before our very eyes. If its sickining to you, you'd best quit looking.

Harry33Truman's picture
No, it is still repugnant

No, it is still repugnant just as much, if I remember correctly we even had a president in the 1700s which committed pedastry. Besides, if people began thinking that the sky is pink it is still blue

Sir Random's picture
Being a bisexual myself, I

Being a bisexual myself, I take a high degree of offence to your words.

algebe's picture
Tieler:

Tieler:

I think the word "morality" is the problem. It's been used to condemn things that some types of theists are afraid of or envy, such as extramarital sex, homosexuality, prostitution, pornography, etc. That's a very narrow view, and it is indeed fluid and ever-changing, because it's based on social norms. I define morality as dealing with other people decently and honestly, treating them as I want to be treated, keeping my word, trying to help when I can... I think those values represent real, universal morality, because they are rooted in what it means to be human. And my view is that if it changes, it isn't morality. It's mores.

Sir Random's picture
I concur, to a degree.

I concur, to a degree.

And "mores"?

algebe's picture
Mores (pronounced "more rays"

Mores (pronounced "more rays") are the accepted customs and norms of a society. One society's mores can be repugnant to another. Genital mutilation of girls and boys is a good example.

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