Asking about atheism

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Sun, 05/20/2018 - 09:52

the universal

I personally do not have a problem with the Bible but just because I do not believe in a god does not mean that the Bible is wrong, incorrect and something that is bad or promoting anything wrong or harmful to people.

I just see a book about a Hebrew people who equated serving other gods equivalent to doing things that hurt yourself and others and serving the god of the Bible was equivalent to doing things that benefit and preserve lives and protect families and children.

I am more like the atheist who looks to the Bible and sees how it was important for the Hebrews to follow its rules and guidelines in order to remain healthy and respectful to one another and other nations around them who would live peacefully. However, the Bible is a good book to reflect upon and continue to study how in today's modern times it shows how to live safe, family lives. But I believe that many of my fellow atheists realize that the world has changed.

Today we have advanced technology but because of our own self-destruction we have created many problems and the Bible simply was a book about how to stop the problems that existed at the time the book was written.

The Bible is focused on family and upon the preservation and respect for children and i really respect that. As an atheist, I would not suggest or need prove that god does not exist by lying about the Bible, making all atheists look like complete foolish clowns.

Sun, 05/20/2018 - 10:54

(Reply to #32) #33

Nyarlathotep

the universal - I personally

the universal - I personally do not have a problem with the Bible but just because I do not believe in a god does not mean that the Bible is wrong...

If god does not exist, then any part of the bible that mentions zim is clearly wrong. If we threw out every chapter that mentions god, what would that leave? My guess is a few chapters of Numbers.

Mon, 05/21/2018 - 04:37

(Reply to #33) #34

Old man shouts ...

@ Universal

Yeh.so interested in the family and welfare of children....lets actually look at this book...

Infanticidal - the act of killing an infant; the practice of killing newborn infants; a person who kills infants.
Isaiah 13:18
Hosea 13:16
1 Samuel 15:2–3
1 Samuel 22:19
Psalm 137:8–9
Isaiah 13:11–18
Numbers 31:17
Jeremiah 13:14
Deuteronomy 13:6–11
Jeremiah 19:3–9
Deuteronomy 28:53
Deuteronomy 3:3–6
Deuteronomy 2:31–34
Hosea 9:11–16
Ezekiel 9:4–6
2 Kings 2:23–24
Exodus 12:29
Leviticus 26:21–22
2 Samuel 12:13–18

Want more you fake?

Tue, 05/22/2018 - 13:14

(Reply to #34) #35

arakish

@Old Man...

Now it is my turn to jump up on the table clapping fervently while cheering...

rmfr

Mon, 05/21/2018 - 04:48

(Reply to #35) #36

David Killens

@the universal

"I am more like the atheist who looks to the Bible and sees how it was important for the Hebrews to follow its rules and guidelines in order to remain healthy and respectful to one another and other nations around them who would live peacefully."

Those hebrews were a murderous and barbaric bunch of mercenaries that wandered around and brutally butchered anyone that got in their way. You really need to take off the rose-colored glasses and see them as historians do. That bunch had no problem beating their children to death if they were insolent and selling their daughters into slavery.

Mon, 05/21/2018 - 10:06

(Reply to #36) #37

LogicFTW

@the universal

Wait wait wait.. Lemme get this straight. You say you are an atheist, but you also think the bible is a good thing?

So you do not even have the excuse of being blinded by the lie of religion and still think the bible is a good thing?
Whats next? Going to tell us lying about everything important is a good thing? Have you even read the tripe? How about the old testament? Which the new is just an edited/updated version of? Agree with all that in the old testament?

Mon, 05/21/2018 - 02:10

#38

Sushisnake

@the universal

Re: "The Bible is focused on family and upon the preservation and respect for children and i really respect that..."

NO IT ISN'T! OMG! NO! JUST NO! IT ISN'T! YOU CLEARLY HAVEN'T READ IT!

The Bible makes De Sade's "120 Days of Sodom" look like a children's bed time story. It's a how-to guide on rape, murder and slavery- including of one's own children.

Exodus 21:7-11 (NLT)
7 “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.

Matthew 15:4 (ESV)
For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.

Leviticus 20:9 (ESV)
For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.

Genesis 19:1-6 (NIV)
The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”

“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”

3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

Why do you think atheists worry about Christian Fundamentalists who take the Bible literally, TU? It's because we wonder just where they draw the line. We already know they're more likely to use violence on their wives and children:

" Christian fundamentalism is positively associated with two of the three measures
of partner violence. The greater the level of Christian fundamentalist beliefs among our respondents, the more likely they were to approve of violence and to use violent behavior in their intimate relationships. This lends support to Capps (1992) and Nason-Clark’s (2000) theoretical argument that a fundamentalist beliefs make family violence at least more tolerable if not more overtly likely. It also lends support for the argument that approval and use of corporal punishment, which is more prominent among Christian fundamentalists, may lead to a more general level of violence approval and may increase the likelihood of violent behavior in intimate relationships. Further study is warranted as to the more general effects of authoritarian and patriarchal ideologies leading to aggression among fundamentalists in intimate relationships."

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.postp...

Apparently marital rape's ok, too, if you live by the Good Book:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/07/christia...

Mon, 05/21/2018 - 07:06

#39

ZeffD

Religionists often completely

Religionists often completely confuse what is literally written in "the" various Bible(s) with Christian cherrypicking, teaching or interpretations. Theology is mythology taken seriously.
Similarly Muslims and Jews with their Quran and Torah.
Even religionists often admit religion is man-made and the various good books are mans creations. That would be a start.

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