Behind the scenes

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Behind the scenes

Trump began a set of empty threats toward North Korea. There are several reasons.
1) He is frustrated about the Russian probe by the special investigator.
2) He wants desperately to be seen as a tough guy (he isn't) and he blusters.
3) He has no answer for North Korea.
Remember that Congress initiated the new UN sanctions against North Korea, not Trump. That is unusual but Trump is so incompetent that someone had to do something.
So I have been closely watching the news (various sources) and have heard from almost every one of them that there are diplomats working back channels to negotiate with North Korea. To a man, they have denied that Trump is even involved.
Every year North Korea threatens war. This happens almost exactly when the USA and South Korean militaries conduct joint exercises. It also happens when the North Korean economy is at its lowest. It will be interesting to see what will actually happen. Will Trump push Kim to fire missiles around Guam and cause a new unnecessary war? Or will the adults in the room prevail?

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MCD's picture
Worst president ever

Worst president ever

mykcob4's picture
Yep!

Yep!

devout christian's picture
The united States has for

The united States has for years given kim a pass, With this president and the progression of north korea possiblhy being able to put a nuclear warhead on an icbm that changes the whole thing here. WE tried diplomacy and it has all failed we tried sanctions and that has failed, You are being fed a lot of propaganda, This threat by kim is a lot more serious then other of his threats. tell me do you want to be nuked, Well not me or my family, You and your sources are being misles. But this president is not he sees the danger that is involved here, He will take action if Guam is attacked he has to do something soon before north korea can be successful in putting a nucleat bomb on a icnm that can reach the continental usa.Don`t fall for this liberal propaganda this president is not barak Obama who depleted our military pardoned terrorist divide our country doubled our debt.he was a total failure as far as I'm concerned. So don`t give me any of your liberal poppy doc be an American and side with your president or go live in north korea, See how much you would enjoy it, you`ll won`t make it one week my friend.Support the Constitution or get out of this great country.And that goes for any more of you liberal communist, who want to destroy our great country.

Nyarlathotep's picture
FYI: spending is controlled

FYI: spending is determined by Congress, not the president.

mykcob4's picture
@simple assnostic

@simple assnostic

1) Obama did not deplete the military. He never pardoned any terrorist. Those are flat out lies!
2) I live in the REAL world and not the Breitbart world. I AM an American that has proudly served this nation which is far more than you have ever done or ever will do so don't attack my loyalty to this nation. I put my life on the line.
3) Trump is pushing to get into a war. A REAL president would not push to get into a war. Trump is so stupid that he is talking about not only getting into a shooting war with North Korea but also with Venezuela.
4) Liberals built this great nation and Liberal and communism are not the same things.

devout christian's picture
I was in the navy at one time

I was in the navy at one time, There is written documentation that Obama fired military personnel and depleted it so don`t give me your propaganda here. I don`t consider Liberals really truly Americans that`s why they lost the last major election, People real americans rose up and beat the Clinton machine.There starting to see the real effect that democrats and liberalism have detrimental on our great nation. I don`t know how you can say he didn`t pardon terrorist I live in new York state and I remember the 1970`s when the prs terrified this great city and state many of them killed and maimed innocent people and law enforcement, harken to years later when Obama was about to leave office he pardoned a puertarican terrorist who wind up as the grand marshal of there yearly parade, it made all the news headlines here in new York, So don`t tell me that it never happened.Before you make outlandish statements review your sources.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Nelson Mandela was a

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist. That word doesn't mean shit.

LogicForTW's picture
Americans did not beat the

Americans did not beat the clinton machine, Republicans did with their gerrymandering and redrawing the voting district map to favor the republican party.

This is obvious when Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million people. A lot considering a little under 63 million people voted for tRump.

It is well known that the bush administration helped family members of bin laden leave the country shortly after 9/11. So do not say for a second the republican party is better then the democrats/obama in regards to terrorist.

SecularSonOfABiscuitEater's picture
Simply ASSnostic lmaooo

Simply ASSnostic lmaooo

Diotrephes's picture
mykcob4,

mykcob4,

According to the New York post of January 17 this year = Puerto Rican terrorist among prisoners freed by Obama
By Michael Gartland and Yoav Gonen January 17, 2017 | 7:47pm | Updated
http://nypost.com/2017/01/17/puerto-rican-terrorist-among-prisoners-free...

"An imprisoned Puerto Rican terrorist who refused to renounce violence to get clemency in 1999, was among those whose sentence was commuted Tuesday by President Obama.

Oscar Lopez-Rivera helped establish the violent Puerto Rican independence group FALN (Fuerza Armadas de Liberacion Nacional, Spanish for Armed Forces of National Liberation).

The group is best known for bombing Fraunces Tavern in lower Manhattan in 1975, an attack that killed four, as well as a 1982 strike on NYPD headquarters."

Diotrephes's picture
simply agnostic,

simply agnostic,

Chances are the commies are playing the US for a sucker. China and Russia probably aided and abetted North Korea with nukes and ICBMs. Since they know Trump reacts like an idiot they are trying to sucker us into attacking North Korea. If that happens we could suffer a major defeat unless we completely nuke North Korea and China. Are you ready to kill 1 billion+ people within 1 hour? We don't have the troops or ability to fight a ground war against North Korea. We would lose. And the worst thing that can happen is to lose against North Korea.

Now the dummy is talking about invading Venezuela. That's completely asinine. What is he going to use for troops, Boy Scouts? The Congress Critter idiots should impeach him and kick him out of office. He's insane. It will be a genuine miracle if we make it to 2020 in one piece with him in office.

mykcob4's picture
Post script.

Post script.
The Orange moron actually changed language that is perceived by the rest of the world and intelligence experts as very dangerous.
He used to spout off about a possible attack by North Korea. That was then. NOW he is threatening military action for "threats". This is significant and dangerous.
Trump made this statement not because he wants to protect America. He said this because his ego is bruised.
When a US president changes priorities from attacks to threats as justification to bring military action he is acting like a tyrant. If his ego is bruised and that becomes the justification for war he is no longer acting on the behalf of this nation.
Also, Trump doesn't even know what is going on in Venezuela yet he threatened military action.

Algebe's picture
Wiser heads may yet prevail.

Wiser heads may yet prevail. According to a report I saw on Japanese TV today, Xi Jinping told the North Koreans that if America attacks first, China will stand beside them, but if they attack America first, they're on their own.

It's a sad day when the President of China starts to appear statesmanlike while the the president of the US comes across like a blustering schoolyard bully.

ZeffD's picture
Simply Ag wrote this nonsense

Simply Ag wrote this nonsense: "Don`t fall for this liberal propaganda this president is not barak Obama who depleted our military pardoned terrorist divide our country doubled our debt."
There is nothing especially "liberal" about the opposition to Trump and it is not propaganda. I agree that N Korea should be stopped from developing both their ICBM and nuclear programs and President Obama had made it perfectly clear that would need to be high priority in this presidential term. That is why it was so important nobody like Trump, Pence or Steve Bannon had much influence on the administration.

Kim is now in a situation where he must either go ahead with the promised missiles directed at Guam in "mid-August" or back down. Domestic, internal politics may ensure it is not possible for Kim not to fire those missiles. The question then will be: what will Trump do? It seems he must either back down or attack N Korea.

President Obama maintained a military strength unparalleled by any other nation on Earth and enhanced it with support of allies that Trump has wrecked.

Algebe: "According to a report I saw on Japanese TV today, Xi Jinping told the North Koreans that if America attacks first, China will stand beside them, but if they attack America first, they're on their own."
This is very interesting. Kim may now think it essential to induce some kind of attack by the USA. And it is important to keep in mind that Kim's politics apparently make it is essential to keep this at the top of international headlines and agendas. A supposed external threat is the basis for his regime.

Not only has Trump handled this situation dangerously, he has played right into the hands of Maduro by giving his supporters what will seem to them like evidence that the Venezuelan opposition is the stooge of the USA.

Most people may now agree (liberals and conservatives) that the N Korean rhetoric, nuclear and ICBM progams must be stopped. Indulging in the same crazy rhetoric as the N Korean dictator isn't the way to do it. It doesn't help to let China portray the USA as the aggressor; nor does it help that allies (such as European & Commonwealth countries, Japan and S Korea) feel they must distance themselves from the "we need to figure out what the hell is going on" Trump. Trump has also dismantled much of the USA's soft power programs. As usual, he cannot "figure out" their worth.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-02/how-trump-is-surrende...

Diotrephes's picture
ZeffD,

ZeffD,

You made some good points but why would anyone trust the Chinese on this issue? When North Korea attacks the US you can bet that China (and Russia) will be lobbing nukes at us. Of course such a plan would be more effective with mass terrorist attacks throughout the US in order to confuse the issue.

The preferred course of action would be if everyone just chills and go about normal everyday business without trying to screw over each other but that won't happen. There are simply too many crazy people in the world for everyone to co-exist in peace and harmony.

mykcob4's picture
Here are the fact so don't be

Here are the fact so don't be confused about simple assgnostics lies.
Obama strengthened the military, he didn't deplete it is a fact.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/subjects/milit...
http://www.npr.org/2016/04/29/476048024/fact-check-has-president-obama-d...

Obama didn't pardon any terrorist. Obama pardoned Oscar Lopez Rivera. He was convicted of masterminding terrorist attacks in NYC, BUT that conviction was overturned and he was convicted of SUPPORTING groups that carried out terrorist attacks in NYC. BIG difference. Rivera is an outspoken supporter of Peurto Rico independence. He raises money for different groups for that cause. He isn't directly linked to any terrorist organization, although his foundation has given money to people that have committed terrorist crimes. Rivera did nothing but raise money that went to a general fund. Some of that money went to what appeared to be protesters, but those people actually committed a crime. Rivera was in no way responsible for that crime. It appears the money changed hand several times before it reached the guilty parties. It is the same thing as a well-known conservative that contributed money that eventually went to the Michigan Militia that financed Timothy McVeigh. Should we arrest the all the religious right organization leaders simply because some of the money ended up in the hands of McVeigh?
Same situation.
Just because simple assgnostic doesn't consider Liberals as REAL Americans only show how utterly ignorant he is. Liberals founded this nation. Every war was won by Liberals. I don't like conservaturds, but I don't call them un-American.

devout christian's picture
And all Spanish proverb "show

And all Spanish proverb "show me the people you hang with and that will say enough about who you are: I rest my case here. Oscar should still be in jail its because the past socialist commie president Obama pardoned him. If it wasn`t for the united states bailing puertorico they still will be in there own vomit like a dog. they were almost bankrupt before the great usa came to there aide.

mykcob4's picture
Puerto Rico is bankrupt

Puerto Rico is bankrupt BECAUSE of the USA goofball.
Obama is neither socialist nor communist. That is just you trying to defame a GREAT President.

LogicForTW's picture
@simply agnostic

@simply agnostic

Try reading up on some history of Puerto Rico before spouting off nonsense.

I been there, I took an interest. While they are many factors that leads to Peurto Rico's economic situation today.

Some major ones:
Large corporations realized Puerto Rico a few decades ago was in a weird quasi US state like situation, where there was free unrestricted trade because it is a US territory, but did not have the same state and federal taxes, or labor/environmental laws that the 50 US states have. With a large population of workers willing to work cheap, not having to face the regulation of working in the 50 states, a bunch of large companies moved production facilities and other tax shelter like corporations to Puerto Rico, that ended up seeing an industry and investment boom. The government flush with new cash campaigned on huge fiscal promises like excellent schooling, hospitals, safety nets, large police force etc.

Then the US began to close some of the tax and regulation loopholes Puerto Rico enjoyed. The people living there also began to demand more fair pay and working conditions. Many of the large industries there, were only there to make more easy money for their shareholders, naturally closed down and left when the easy money was over, (mostly to overseas.) Minus all the tax dollars and employment these companies brought, Puerto Rico faced a budget crisis, which they they tried to borrow their way out of, and trying to create a banking industry with their lax local laws and rules which added to the debt crisis. That mostly failed. Puerto Rico hit a debt crisis, and we are where we are today, where the US must decide to continue to bail Puerto Rico out, or have it fall into 3rd world status if it were to allow Puerto Rico default on its debt.

mykcob4's picture
So you hang with and defend

So you hang with and defend white supremacists, racists and low information voters. Now we know who you really are, even if you don't.

chimp3's picture
The worls as I see it:

The worls as I see it:

The U.S. has an ignorant, illiterate, narcissistic asshole in charge.

N.K. has a Crazy Asshole Cult Leader in charge.

If some sane grownups don't take charge then some good kids are coming home in a box.

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