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BIOLOGISTS ONLY

If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys around?

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Pitar's picture
I'll wait with you for the

I'll wait with you for the biologists to arrive. I assume you have already contacted them.

Alembé's picture
If american football evolved

If american football evolved from rugby, why is there still rugby around?

Keith Raye's picture
@Alembe Because England is.

@Alembe

Because England is.

algebe's picture
I saw a rugby match once. I

I saw a rugby match once. I also saw two tribes of monkeys fighting over a melon in a zoo enclosure.

Sorry. What was the question again?

Flamenca's picture
John(@Breezy), why biologists

@Breezy), why biologists? Do you expect something more elaborated that "we didn't evolve from monkeys, we have a common ancestor instead"? For that answer, you just need any average atheist... I wonder where we can find one... ;)

Good one, @Alembé! Ahem,... I mean... bad! Atheists suck xD

P.S. And John, maybe it's time to make a thread with your concerns, you seem burnt, man. I miss the only believer in this forum who's able to write amazing scientific posts in one thread, while he quotes the Bible in another.

Keith Raye's picture
@Believerbot

@Believerbot

"Good one, @Alembé! Ahem,... I mean... bad! Atheists suck xD"

LOL!!

chimp3's picture
Any biologist smarter than a

Any biologist smarter than a fifth grader will do.

Nyarlathotep's picture
I took high school biology 30

I took high school biology 30 years ago; does that count?

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
Nah, you can't legally add

Nah, you can't legally add the -ist to biology until you have a PhD.

Mohammad Ali's picture
Until a biologist arrives I

Until a biologist arrives I'll give it a shot.In that way they can correct me too if I'm mistaken anywhere.By the way this question has been asked a thousand times.Anyway let me explain it in layman terms.
We did not evolve from monkeys. Humans and monkeys share a common ancestor. It was neither a monkey nor a human being. The reason why that ancestor branched off into two( or more) directions is because of this thing called natural selection. Every offspring of an individual is a little different than the individual itself.Now obviously some individuals will fit in better in the given environmental conditions than others because of these differences.Therefore they will live to pass on there genes to their offsprings which in turn are a little different.This process is cumulative and if we look at two consecutive individuals we will not find a difference.But enough number of generations could give rise to different individuals, different to the extent that they cannot mate with the individuals they started with. Different Species.

Benjboi's picture
Bang on, I studied geology at

Bang on, I studied geology at university and common ancestor is correct. It was australopithecus afarensis that was believed to be the closest common ancestor but I believe it was subsequently replaced by ardipithecus as an older common ancestor.

Mohammad Ali's picture
The environmental factors

The environmental factors could have contributed to the branching process.For instance the individual members of the common ancestor might have divided into two (or more) groups and lived separately for several generations.This division could be physically caused by something like a river in between.
Forgot to mention that.

Alembé's picture
Not wishing to get too deep

Not wishing to get too deep and technical about this, but humans evolved from apes, not monkeys.

Sky Pilot's picture
Alembé,

Alembé,

Humans and modern apes evolved from an ancient ape-like creature. Humans didn't evolve from modern apes.

Sheldon's picture
"Humans and modern apes

"Humans and modern apes evolved from an ancient ape-like creature. Humans didn't evolve from modern apes."

Correct, and in point of fact the taxonomy of humans is that we are modern apes, part of a family of great apes including gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, bonobos and humans, and lesser apes gibbons & Siamangs.

Alembé's picture
Hi Diotrephes,

Hi Diotrephes,

Agreed. Please excuse my loose definition.

MCDennis's picture
This is a troll post. No one

This is a troll post. No one could be this ill informed

Flamenca's picture
@MCD, No one could be this

@MCD, No one could be this ill informed Not the person who opened this thread, that's for sure, especially owning a nickname like that, right? ;)

Back when I was an atheist, I listened to this "line of argument" (in quotes for a good reason) of monkeys a few times coming from believers (I must say though they were mostly children or illiterate elder people).

chimp3's picture
From here only Prophets or

From here only Prophets or Theologians with PhDs are allowed to post ideas about gods.

Burn Your Bible's picture
@chimp3

@chimp3
Now he is going to change his name to @prophetBreezy

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
Nah, I said this first.

Nah, I said this first.

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Randomhero1982's picture
A question on evolution

A question on evolution straight out of the Kent Hovind playbook....

Two points, Your after an evolutionary biologist and we didn't evolve from monkeys.

Please don't ask the 'kinds' question, I have no oven gloves to protect from face palming ;)

RANJEET's picture
Because humans evolved from

Because humans evolved from some apes does not mean ALL apes everywhere, evolved into humans. Some apes, in some places, did not evolve into humans because they instead evolved into the modern ape species that co-exist with modern humans such as chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans.
I am not a biologist, so my knowledge is of the general process and not on fossil or genetic records.
Let's say that several million years back there was a group early primates that lived some that lived somewhere in Africa. At some point the group became separated into smaller groups. We'll call them group A and group B. Perhaps the two groups went wandering in search of food, or perhaps there were too many predators, or too much sun. We'll say that they were pretty much quadrupeds.
Group A found itself in the jungle. Now maybe there were these big predators that used to go around eating the group A primates. Every time the predator came by, the group A primates would grab a tree and climb as fast as they could. Inevitably, the slow climbers became dinner for the predator. Over time, the traits that made them good climbers became prominent in Group A (since those who did not have the traits rarely lived long enough to reproduce), toes that could wrap around branches, etc. As Group A spent more time in the trees, other traits became prominent. It's only food was leafy vegetables and insects, so if it didn't have teeth or a digestive system that favored this type of diet the animal would either be malnourished or have to spend more time on the ground where it was likely to be eaten. After several million years of other environmental stimuli, traits became prominent that exist in monkeys today. Verdict? Success--Group A's descendants survived.
Group B wandered onto the savannah. Food and water were not as plentiful, so the members had to spend more time on their two hind paws to get a good look around both for food and to avoid predators. They also had to move fast over long distances. Over time, the traits that favored success (success being to not be eaten and to find enough food to survive) became a foot structure that allowed them to run and balance on two feet and a back and hip structure that could remain upright for long periods of time. At some point, larger brains and an opposable thumb became favorable traits--perhaps to grip rocks to throw rocks at predators since there was no place to run and to mentally estimate the trajectory of the throw. For whatever reason, these traits tended to ensure that the animal would survive long enough to reproduce while the others didn't. Eventually, new traits were favored in the large brains that contributed to survival--the ability to fashion tools and to communicate in order to hunt as a team. Verdict? Group B's descendants also survived.

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ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
All apes come from monkeys,

Wrong. All apes come from monkeys, but not all monkeys come from apes.

Burn Your Bible's picture
How would you know

How would you know atheistbreezy? You are an uneducated atheist that doesn't have to answer questions and only quotes others? At least that's what you have said!!! Also if true how did you gain that knowledge??

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
Ohh

Ohh

Aposteriori unum's picture
Did you really lower yourself

Did you really lower yourself to that level of willfull ignorance? You know the answer and you refuse to accept it.

I'll leave the answer to the question alone and instead comment on the terminology.

Humans didn't evolve 'from' monkeys into something different in the sense that humans are still monkeys. Apes being a subset of monkeys and humans being a subset of apes. What's the distance between Chicago and Illinois? When did a beverage become juice? What's the difference between arithmetic and mathematics?

Nyarlathotep's picture
He's just trolling.

He's just trolling.

Burn Your Bible's picture
Yes why is this post getting

Yes why is this post getting so much interest??? He is a troll and not a very good one at that

Closet_atheist's picture
@Believerbot

@Believerbot

"Back when I was an atheist,"

How is this possible? I can understand being indoctrinated as a developing child, (happened to me) but to dive into theism as an adult seems insane.

Although I have witnessed habitual drug users trade their addiction to Christianity through the steps. Is that you?

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