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"nobody has witnessed any new body part forming ever,"
Nor have they witnessed anything supernatural ever, the difference is new species and body parts are objectively evidenced. The fossil record evidences this beyond any objective denial.
Original life dividing as single-celled organisms, stayed together in a colony, rather than dispersing. Eventually, individual cells became specialized, creating multi-cellular life.
laid down support structures on the inside (vertebrates) rather than the outside (arthropods). This doomed us to never dominanting the planet, as the creatures with exoskeletons have always ruled the world, and likely always will, vastly outnumbering us, out-weighing us in terms of biomass, living in a far wider range of environments, outdoing us in just about every possible interpretation of survival, and infesting and living off us.
lived in seasonally flooded mangrove swamps or tidal basins, so were regularly exposed to air, became mudskippers, and eventually began to spend the majority of time on land... though naturally we'd been beaten to it by millions of years by the arthropods: insects, crabs, etc.
invested in internal maintenance of body heat, which served us well when the skies went dark and the ones who'd chosen external thermoregulation died off.
climbed (brachiated) in trees to became monkeys, this brachiation providing necessary preadaptations to bipedalism and tool-holding.
had their tails atrophy away (why? We don't know!) to become the apes.
lived on water-based prey, likely in mangrove swamps (which may also have lost us our fur covering), so had ample supplies of essential fatty acids for surplus brain growth.
were large-brained generalists: omnivorous, adventurous, opportunistic and inquisitive. This led us to start using tools.
were socially gregarious enough to share the abilities that tools gave.
had a descended larynx, such that complex speech could be developed, and thence storytelling and passing on of knowledge, eventually leading to writing.
Entirely plausible, supported by actual evidence and doesn't require the suspension of the laws of physics and/or nature.
Now, for the umpteenth time... demonstrate your mechanism for what you believe brought about human existence and evidence your claim.
Please don't let it be magic..... please don't say you've wasted all our time with a belief that all life was created out of thin air by a cosmic Bjorn Borg... come on... enlighten us...
Nice try, that was total conjecture, not witnessed.
Probably total crap and you haven’t got a clue to the actuality of it.
Any empirical evidence how even the most simple organism got its start in a hostile chemical soup billions of years ago? Where did all the genetic info come from? Just getting 1 protein into existence by chance is impossible enough and your theory is based totally on luck that just isn’t there. That’s just for starters
Macro evolution (speciation) has been observed as an objective scientific fact. You no more know what did or did not happen billions of years ago "through observation" than anyone else. The difference between scientific facts like evolution and your vapid bronze age superstition is that evolution is objectively validated by the scientific method.
J N Vanderbilt III "Nice try, that was total conjecture, not witnessed."
As opposed to an unevidenced bronze age deity creating people using magic and clay?
"your theory is based totally on luck 2
The theory is scientific hence is subject to the same strict principles of validation AS ALL scientific theories, including gravity, probability, relativity, germ, etc etc. Nothing in evolution is synonymous with luck which is an entirely human concept, like codes.
Here's a clue for you Bullwinkle, in science the word theory is a broad explanation for a natural phenomenon, that is evidenced beyond any objective doubt, look it up.
Bullwinkle (creatard)
"Any empirical evidence how even the most simple organism got its start in a hostile chemical soup billions of years ago?"
Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, it only explain the origins of species. Only an ignorant creatard would not know this.
"your theory is based totally on luck that just isn’t there."
Sciences's theory, and if it weren't "there" it wouldn't by definition be an accepted scientific theory.
"theory is based totally on luck "
Luck as an explanation for anything, is entirely anathema to a scientific theory, at least to anyone who knows what the term means, or has the intellect and integrity to Google it, ruling you out it appears.
"that was total conjecture, not witnessed."
Like your puerile belief in humans being created using magic in an instant from clay, involving magic apples and talking snakes then. Something of an own goal each time you make this assertion. Especially since science can and does objectively evidence species evolution, and macro evolution has been witness in multiple studies.
"Any empirical evidence how even the most simple organism got its start in a hostile chemical soup billions of years ago? "
This is a question about the origin of life, it has nothing to do with evolution which explains and evidences the origin of species, but make no claims whatsoever about the origins of life. Only the most woefully ignorant and dishonest creatards produce this cliched howler.
The rest of your post is of course a god of the gaps polemic, yet again. The difference here is that evolutuon makes no claims about the origins of life, none.
If you had to be there to witness it in order for it to be true, then you have simultaneously destroyed all religion and any 'intelligent design' argument that goes with it too.
Congratulations shit for brains.
Here is the poster for jnv3 to hang in its bedroom.
rmfr
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Actually there have been accounts of the supernatural witnessed , in the Bible and in Fatima and at death but what should worry you is NOT witnessing new body plans taking effect, EVER. So you probably do think it likely that a shipwrecked bloke might get his chicken liver provencal because he was yearning for it.
Makes about as much sense as starting to look exactly like a leaf. LOL this is hilarious!! And you believe it!!!
@ JNV3
LOL this is hilarious!! And you believe it!!!
Petard.Own. Hoist.
Oh fuck me!!!! PMSL!!!!
I'm done old man, I'm done PMSL!!!!
Hahahahahahahaha!
Super.... natural... pahhhhhahahahahaha!
25 pages and we finally get to it..... pahhahaha!!!
MAGIC!!!!
Wow!
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You could do like me and start wearing Depends when reading the posts...
rmfr
"Actually there have been accounts of the supernatural witnessed"
There have been identical claims to have witnessed mermaids, however I never said there weren't fictitious claims for which no objective evidence could be demonstrated. The bible can no more validate it's claims than Harry Potter can. If the bible is evidence for it's claims then Harry Potter books would be evidence for magic and wizards.
" So you probably do think it likely that a shipwrecked bloke might get his chicken liver provencal because he was yearning for it."
No, and again why you think lying like this represents compelling argument is unclear, but it speaks volumes about your lack of integrity. You are the one who believes prayers can be answered by magic, not me.
"Makes about as much sense as starting to look exactly like a leaf. LOL this is hilarious!! And you believe it!!!"
LOL indeed, as this is yet another of your puerile lies as I have made no such claim, but by all means show a single post of mine making this claim about leaves, or indeed any claims about leaves. Again your rank dishonesty tells us all we need to know about delusional superstition's reaction when its fallacious verbiage is refuted. Leaves exist as an objective fact, and evolution of all living things is also evidenced as an objective fact. You're the one adding puerile fairy tales about magic to the mix. What can you demonstrate that is comparable to the scientific evidence science has amassed for evolution that evidences your fairy tale about magic apples and talking snakes?
1) Oh that's right you can point blithely to unevidenced claims in the bible.
2) You can make vague unevidenced anecdotal claims a "miracle" at Fatima that the the sun moved in the sky, something oddly not observed anywhere else in the world by a single objective witness.
3) And of course you can yet again make appeal to ignorance fallacies about unexplained experiences of people whose brains were dying from oxygen starvation.
You don't know what objective evidence is, do you? That is pitiful...
So now you’re the arbiters of the authenticity of the Bible. Like anyone is going to listen to you, folks who believe that a magical mutation can turn a katydid TO LOOK EXACTLY like a LEAF!!!
Comical I tell you.
Funny how looking like a leaf is perfect for camouflage, what could befall a katydid other then evolutionists dumb luck?
Again your creed is built on sand
jnv3: "So now you’re the arbiters of the authenticity of the Bible."
And you are?
rmfr
No one mentioned the bible's authenticity, do you just lie for fun, or is your command of English really this poor? Authenticity of it's claims is what was commented on, and no book can validate it's own claims, this is axiomatic. Your repetition of your lie about claims no one has made just shows you're trolling now, and getting no bites as well, how sad.
"Funny how looking like a leaf is perfect for camouflage, what could befall a katydid other then evolutionists dumb luck?"
https://entomologytoday.org/2015/04/08/the-origin-of-grasshoppers-katydi...
"understanding the evolutionary relationships in the Orthoptera is important, but up until recently, the hypothesized taxonomy of the group was disorganized and inconsistent. A giant step in correcting this problem was made with a recent study of the evolutionary relationships of the Orthoptera, published in the journal Cladistics by Hojun Song of Texas A&M University and his colleagues."
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cla.12116
Here is a video explaining the evidence for you:
https://youtu.be/SvjSP2xYZm8
Another site explaining the evolution of Katydids.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2016/09/14/lichen-katydid/
Evolution of bombardier beetle http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB310.html
Finally here is a link *AGAIN to the talkorigins website, with a massive database of evidence for evolution.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-research.html
I look forward to you ignoring it again...tell us again what objective evidence you can demonstrate that humans were created in an instant using magic and clay, fnarrr?
And notice how jnv3 is nothing more than a young child. He spells chicken liver provençal incorrectly. Too young to have enough intelligence on how to spell punctuate properly.
rmfr
Keep on believing in magic.
@J N Vanderbilt III who said that a single fish had been observed to turn into a human?
According to J N Vanderbilt III's logic, the Book of Genesis is false because earth has never been observed to turn into a human.
I suspect that the number of scientific papers relating to evolution that J N Vanderbilt III has read is less than 1.
So the katydid turns into a leaf lookalike and you think nothing much of it, just ignore your miracles
What's more likely,
A) Subtly changed over millions of years to adapt to it's environment as all creatures do.
Or
B) Magic!!!!!
A miracle is something contrary to the laws of nature. If something has happened, it cannot be a miracle.
And Sapporo gets in a smackdown! Yeah team AR!
rmfr
"So the katydid *turns into* a leaf "
Still a lie, and still pathetic. Only you believe in instantaneous creation using magic. Evolution does not work this way...no matter how many times you lie about it...
@ J N Vanderbilt III
How about we go back to your original post. Of course, like any good theist, you are just going to ignore this.
In one word: NO! Nature does NOT create codes.
DNA is NOT a code. DNA is only a complex macromolecule comprised of other molcules known as cytosine (C), guanine (G), adenine (A), or thymine (T), a sugar called deoxyribose, and a phosphate group (Wikipedia). DNA does NOT get translated because it does not speak. It simply carries instructions. Nothing more. DNA does NOT have error correction. The "errors" are actually the mutations that may or may not get passed on to offspring.
Here are some links you can use as a primer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_replication
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_repair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection
Of course, even these Wikipedia may be beyond your capabilities of comprehension.
DNA is NOT a code. Nature, or more specifically, Natural Selection does NOT create codes.
And here is the only thing you got correct. It is humans that create the code and apply it to something in order to create a framework to better understand how something works.
Now it is your turn.
Formal Challenge: Either provide objective hard empirical evidence to back up your claim that DNA was formed by an intelligent entity, or admit you are wrong.
And remember this: If it cannot be falsified or verified, then it is not evidence.
rmfr
Arakish, what have we told you about using logic, reason and common sense with idiots?
Now, go sit in the corner...
@ Random Re: "Now, go sit in the corner..."
But... But... But... Aw, man, I was just trying to explain something to him.
***tree shuffles off to corner***
Man, I'm always getting picked on.
rmfr
Sapporo miracles do happen and been documented
But the big elephant here is how a katydid can camouflage itself to look EXACTLY LIKE A LEAF? Are there mutations for everything imaginable? Lol
Now that in itself is s miracle
Doth one detect the stench of bovine excrement...
@jnv3
Did your god created life on this planet? If so, you will need to provide objective evidence to back that claim up.
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