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Seems to be a recurring theme

Seems to be a recurring theme amongst the "Godly".

…. Demanding money with menaces ….seems to be a speciality with the church….. odd for such spiritual people..

This from Acts …

5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,

5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

5:5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

5:6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

5:7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.

5:8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.

5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

5:10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

5:11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

5:12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.

5:13 And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.

So Ananias sold some land and gave half to the church but the church wanted it all.

Seems to be a “Your money or your life “ deal …I wonder if Peter wore a mask..

mykcob4's picture
Religion all religions have

Religion all religions have been a source of income and power. From the onset the purpose of religion was to obtain assets and control. It religion did generate wealth there would be no religion plain and simple. If religion didn't control the masses demand obedience and achieve that ends there would be no religion plain and simple.
Have you ever questioned a church on their income stream? Their answer is always the same. "If didn't receive money we couldn't bring the powerful word of god to the people." And what do you get for this donation? Nothing, just a bunch of double talk.

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God of Humanity : "If you ban

God of Humanity : "If you ban these things then it is easy to get black money from these sectors by giving illegal permission.At the same time "the authority of the state" try to convince the poor gullible muslim people by showing that "the state" is eager to stop all these practices."

This is something North Americans , Asians , Africans, Europeans can all agree upon. Prohibition of personal pleasure creates a market for graft , corruption , organized crime.

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@ God of Humanity: I think

@ God of Humanity: I think you meant Dharmaguru (translated as religious teacher).
I agree with you, the God business is viral in India.
The effects are far more widespread than you portray.

Majority of the Indian population is below the poverty line (about 70%), most of these people have little to no education, i.e. they are illiterate forget educated. They were brought up on a mixed diet of social norms and religious superstition along with irrational cultist pride in what the call Jaat (social class). Most of these people turn to local Babas (these are the low ranking spiritual leaders, those that have not attained enlightenment but just teach the (word of god) shastras ). It is this part of the demographic that falls prey to "tabiz" and other magics and are stupid enough to go to absurd ends like honour killing of intercaste couples and human sacrifice of lower caste people. However this practice is relegated to the deep rural and tribal parts.

The more malignant Dharamgurus are those of a higher stature than these Babas, they call themselves "Gurus". They feed of the delusions of the more educated higher classes. Some of them claim to be God manifested on earth, others claim to be a saint called Sai Baba (19th century saint) who most people believe was also God manifested on earth. Most of these Godmen are involved in illegal rackets, money laundering schemes and amass huge fortunes tucked away under government protection.

The Dharamgurus lend credence to the lower Babas and their work affirming they are divine and people then fall prey to cheap magic tricks leading to superstitious belief. Finally on the orders of these sages they commit horrid acts like human sacrifice, honour killings, murders, child sacrifices to gain immortality (a tantric ritual) and what not.....

It is strange that in India even the Gods on earth follow a class system, but despite that they are all malignant.
The problem is that the educated believe in this nonsense. A creep called sathya Sai Baba who was accused of child molestation was venerated as a god. another creep called ashram bapu was found with dead bodies of missing people lying around his ashram.A moron named nirmal baba preached that buying a brown wallet instead of black or a blue hair brush or green tooth brush and other such nonsense brought fortune. An Idiot named ramdev baba goes on tv and declares that yoga cures diabetes and cancer and people listen to this nonsense.

However not all of India is as bad. we do have our weaknesses but we have a lot of strength as well. There are quite a few Indians working to help these ignorant masses realise the scheming of these godmen and have dedicated their lives to it. Dr Narendra Nayak, Babu gogineni, Sanal Edmarku and many more people have really tried to wash away superstition and preach science instead. some have had a hard time though.

India as a whole is still more accepting of atheism in general. There are organisations like RSS and other religious groups that are notorious but people in general are more accepting. A lot of prominent Indians and quite a few of them in politics are openly atheistic and that did not alter their political career. It would not be fair to paint India in a single colour of ignorance.

humanity's picture
carry on

carry on

Tin-Man's picture
Am I the only one wondering

Am I the only one wondering how/why this thread popped up as being "new", when it is over two years old? And there isn't even a topic in the OP.

CyberLN's picture
It appears that the OPer

It appears that the OPer logged in after a couple of months and edited the text away. He has been escorted from the building.

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