I think I remember hearing a YouTuber say this once, but either way, it just randomly came back to me today, and it’s actually a really good way of thinking about some of the “evidence” some Christians provide in a debate.
“Trying to prove the Bible is true by using quotes from God, is like trying to prove The Lord of The Rings is true by using quotes from Gandalf”
Thoughts?
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I see no difference. A very good analogy.
But Gandalf does exist. FRODO LIVES!
Seriously, Gandalf is actually infinitely more truthful and believable.
rmfr
That's how I prove Lord of the Rings.
"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has lost the path of wisdom."
“All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
Gandalf was a real person. Every bit as real as Jesus. The "Lord of the Rings" proves it.
So, will somebody please explain to me why it is SO freakin' difficult to believe the Wizard of Oz is real? I mean, I have told you people over and over I had a very REAL and PERSONAL experience with the guy. Heck, he even gave me a new heart. But will anybody listen? Nnnn-oooooo!... Do you have any idea how frustrating it is to tell people about all the amazing conversations I had with the great and powerful Wizard, just to have everybody scoff and wave their hands in dismissal simply because I don't have PROOF? I mean - c'mon! - I actually SAW the guy take that Dorothy chic (and her little dog, too) up up and away in that damn hot air balloon. There were thousands of witnesses, even. Just go ask any of them. (Oh, wait... They may all be dead by now.) Regardless, there was even a movie made about the whole event. So he must be real, right? Oh, and don't even get me started about all the different witches and the flying monkeys. Most people just tell me I was hallucinating or having some sort of "mental episode." Some even suggest I may have had a bad reaction from eating the apple from that talking tree. Fine. Whatever. Bunch of doubters. And don't go thinking I was having some sort of trip from the poppy fields. My blood tests came back negative.
Look, all I'm sayin' is that I have no reason to lie about this stuff, so it puzzles me why people never believe me. Such a bummer sometimes. *sad sigh*
@Tin-Man
Hey! I believe you. I had a run-in with those flying monkeys. They ain't nothing to fool around with.
Alas. I failed my blood tests from that trip to the poppy fields. Bummer.
Besides, I also believe in your Great Cosmic Bunnies.
rmfr
@Arakish
Finally! Another believer! Praise the Cosmic Bunnies and their Prophet The Great and Mighty Wizard! Let the nay-sayers and skeptics scoff all they want. But through the strength and glory of the Wizard and those adorably cute and fluffy Bunnies we shall reign SUPREME over all the flying monkeys and wicked witches that dare to show themselves and attempt to lead us astray! Stay on that yellow path of stone, my Brother! The holy Emerald City awaits you at the end! Amen! Amen! Amen!....*head down, eyes closed, arms over head, hands waving*....
And, wow, are those books far superior literary works than the bible. Good from start to finish, cohesive, imaginative, morally agreeable, fun and lest we forget... we know who the author was.
(And Gandalf is a much better role model than jesus... Gandalf never said these words: " Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me” (Luke 19:27) or "If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace—but now it is hidden from your eyes. The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you” (Luke 19:41-44)).
Flying monkeys are real. I know it for a fact. Some of them are my cousins.
@Cog Re: Flying monkeys
Ah-ha! THAT explains why you look so familiar to me now! Oh, no offense, but your cousins are real assholes, by the way.
I will go with my old Spider Man comics. They even have real places like the Brooklyn Bridge in them. Take that jesus, let's see you swing between buildings.
Ha ha ha ha .... Tin Man said "Flying Assholes." Imagine one of them swooping down on you.