Yes, that's right, I have finally seen the light after all these years, and I am going to share to you, atheists, and whatever theists there are on this site, what I have learned.
Firstly I learned that religion is bullsh*t- but atheists already knew that so this is for whatever theists may be reading.
Secondly I learned that atheism is also bullsh*t, then again I already knew that, but I believe atheists should know that.
Thirdly, I learned that "God" is not the correct word to use, as this implies a personal, evil dictator, who has billions of cult followers with Stockholm's syndrome, something which demands, and supposedly deserves, to be worshipped. The correct term, I believe, is somewhere along the lines of "cosmic architect," but for convenience purposes I will call it "the Creator."
I am no longer as theist, my friends, I don't believe in religion, but in reason, and for this reason I believe in a non-personal cosmic force, like gravity, except displaying a level of intelligence. My reason for this is incredibly simple, organization requires an organizer, and design a designer.
Fifthly, I learned to not care. Basically I don't care if you're atheists, or theists, or pastafarians, I don't have time to argue about "religion," only things that have real relevance and that affect my life in some way. Basically you are like people who don't believe that gravity exists, obviously if you drop something it will fall, but who cares? If you don't want to believe in a Creator, I have more important things to weorry about, its not like anyone is going to hell or anything because herll was made up by cultic leaders to control their adherents.
This is why, if you read my book that is coming out in a month or so, you will see that, as the book goes along, it gradually shifts from a Karaite Jewish perspective to a Deistic perspective. Though the book is trying to prove Karaite Judaism, and I no longer bbelieve in this, I worked on it for a long time and put a lot of effort into it, so I weill finish writing it with a Deistic perspective, publish it in January. It will be called "The Karaite."
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I will not be reading your book H.T. but good luck! I have already read enough of your boring journey of self discovery.
You won't? What if I gave you a free online copy?
I'm not having a journey of self discovery, I had a journey away from religious nonsense.
Make sure you put that in your book!
The book isn't about aquatic sea monkeys, its about Judaism
Boring!
You're boring, you went back to this post because you hadnothibg beterto do didn't you?
I was looking for a good argument.
But you only said boring.
I could counter with a telling of my own journey rejecting catholicism at 13 and atheist realiaztions, subsequent rejection of Pentecostal!ism, journey into kundalini and bhakti yoga, my initiation into a Sufi order and then a slow rejection of all of the above into to an apathetic religious world view and then into current atheist online debater but it would bore me more than you.
The book isn't about aquatic sea monkeys, its about Judaism
I have never seen someone so confused as you HT. BTW you declared a long while ago that you are leaving. When is that actually going to happen?
Well it all started when that Rabbanite fellow disproved Christianity for me. After that I went from sect to sect not knowing what to do with my absurd religion, and became gradually less religious over time, until I finaly hit ground zero and am now not religious at all.
I did leave, but I came back.
Are you now an atheist?
No, I'm a Deist, who isn't religious.
As a deist do you believe in one god?
I can't say for sure that this creator is only one force, but I am inclined to believe that there is only one as the universe follows a uniform organization.
Hmmm! Define uniform organization.
atoms are organized in a manner almost identical to that of solar systems, for example. Certain organizations and patters repeat, and the universe seems to have been created under a uniform design, i.e. 1 creating force. The Fibonacci sequence, for example, reoccurs throughout nature in the form of spirals.
Hmmm? Atoms almost identical to so!ar systems. I have suffered through college level chemistry but similarity to solar systems? How?
A massive chunk of matter, accounting for most of the mass, in the center- with smaller bits of matter continuously revolving around it. Most of the mass being at the center, most of the space being in the surrounding empty space. Compare these two:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rj...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rj...
If you think that a system having most of its mass, located near its center of mass, is evidence for some kind of divine/intelligent creator/organizer; then you have set your bar so low you will never be disappointed.
This just in: hot water is hot! Must be an intelligent designer!
I was trying to describe how solar systems and atomic structures resemble each other. It is a commonly accepted fact tht certain patterns reoccur throughout nature.
Quantum physics is a bugger for me but I don't believe electrons orbit the nucleus in any way comparable to solar systems.
They don't?
Not really. Check out the following: https://scienceconceptions.wikispaces.com/Orbiting+Electrons
no they don't. Sometimes they are drawn in a way that looks like that, but it is a representation of energy levels, not actual orbits.
Why would repeating patterns require a supernatural source anyway?
They don't- that wasn't the point I was making. If for example, I met 2 people on this site, and they both talked in the same mannerisms and used the same words, I may have reason to believe that they are the same person.
You brought up the uniform nature of the universe as a rationale for a belief in a single deity.
No, as rationale forwhy there is only one creator, why there is a creator in the first place is a different discussion, and I would recommend to you a book by Bob Johnson entitled 'God gave us reason, not religion.'
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