Increasingly Secular Nation Replaces Outdated Religious Ideas With End Times Prophecies, Moral Judgments
January 22nd, 2019
U.S.—The increasingly secular nation has replaced its outdated religious ideas with more advanced, enlightened ideas, like telling you what behavior is immoral and predicting when the world is going to end.
Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has just predicted that the world will end in 12 years if you do not give the government more power over your life. Leftists across the country agreed this is a big improvement on outlandish religious claims that the world will end and you will be judged for your sin one day soon.
In addition, Lady Gaga pronounced Mike Pence's Christianity as lacking morality, a claim immediately praised by the same people who agree that morality is relative and that you can't judge people based on who they are or what they do.
"Having been freed from the shackles of religion, we will now make wild predictions about when the world will end and inform you who is moral and who is not," atheist small group leader Beorn Mingles said at a Portland coffee shop Tuesday. "Finally, we have cast off the opiate of the masses and instead will just tell you what to believe and how to behave."
"I'm glad it's the 21st century," he added, chuckling, as his small group members arrived, marked-up copies of The God Delusion in tow. "Living under the thumb of religion's doomsday declarations and moral judgments is so last millennium."
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Morality is subjective, it comes from your mind and the society's laws.
There are no objective morals, that exist outside of the mind.
Religion's time and purpose in society are coming to an end.
Religion has failed to prove there is a god.
Is that an objective truth statement?
Another asinine response by out friend AJ777. Read the frigging post again. xenoview just told you it was "SUBJECTIVE." If you do not like the response, argue the opposite. Tell us how your wonderful asshole god establishes an objective morality. Cite one objective moral value that your God does not violate. Asserting your god does follow objective morality just proves the morality is not objective. Divine command theory - do it because god says it not because he does it - would be the same morality that allowed the Nazis to kill the Jews or the good theists to sing and laugh as they cut open the stomachs of pregnant women and dashed their unborn babies against the rocks.
YOUR QUESTION IS BULLSHIT. It points to nothing. It is the question of an ignorant little boy trying to be a pedantic smart ass.
AJ777: "Is that an objective truth statement?"
Neutron star, dude.
rmfr
Subjective morals come from the mind. I don't claim to be making an objective statement.
Do you treat people how you want to be treated? Do you follow the laws of the country you live in?
Can you prove that morals are objective?
AJ777, please provide YOUR definition of ‘objective’.
If something is true it is true for all people in all places at all times.
Is that an objective truth statement?
AJ777, Is this your definition of ‘objective’?
Does that mean that the objective morals of Old Testament biblical times also apply now?
The old covenant Old Testament Jewish laws were applicable to those people at that time. The laws affirmed in the New Testament are applicable to Christians today. The moral law is unchanging.
I see. So different moral laws for different people at different times. That doesn't seem to fit your definition of objective morality at all.
Reread my post. That’s not what I wrote.
I read it. You said that Old Testament Jewish laws were applied to the people at that time. And then later, the New Testament affirmed different laws that apply to people today. Can you help me understand how that fits in with objective morality that is "true for all people in all places at all times"?
The state of California has different laws than South Korea. However in both jurisdictions for each set of citizens murder is a crime. A prohibition against murder is an unchanging moral law. We do not need to be told it is wrong, all sane humans know it to be wrong.
You can scream that until you'll blue in the face, but in reality it does not seem to be the case.
Hooooo!!! Only bronze-age nomadic tribes of the middle east had come to understand that murder is a crime?
@AJ777 (edited to add tag)
Old Testament: Kill adulterers
New Testament Jesus: jk, don't do that
I'd be interested to hear your definition of murder. In the Bible, God ordered the slaughter of entire peoples, including women and children. You're right that as a sane human, that sounds absolutely monstrous to me. Is that not murder in your eyes?
@Stone Jade
You misunderstood me! Of course it is murder. My post was for AJ77.
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Misunderstandings all around! Haha! Mine was for AJ77 as well. Going to at that little @ now.
No problems, actually this was funny.
@AJ777 (edited to add tag)
Postscript: That's genocide.
That's Exactly what you are writing. Divine command dictates whatever God does is moral. He tells people to murder as in the OT, it is moral, regardless of the 10 commandments. He tells people to make magic potions, it is moral. Objective to you means whatever god says. Whatever bullshit murderous infanticidal, suicidal, genocidal.
So we can throw out the Ten Commandments. I'm still waiting for a single example of this unchanging moral law. Perhaps SLAVERY? It is okay to have a slave and beat your slave and pass your slave on to your children. God's moral law. Exodus 21. You can own people as property.
Cognostic,
"So we can throw out the Ten Commandments."
The Ten Commandments don't prohibit murder. They demand murder for anyone who violates the first nine.
AJ777, you wrote, “The old covenant Old Testament Jewish laws were applicable to those people at that time. The laws affirmed in the New Testament are applicable to Christians today. The moral law is unchanging.”
So in Luke 14:26, Jesus said: “If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.”
I get it now! It’s okay to hate your parents because the commandment to honor them was in the OLD testament!
If you would read the entire book of Luke and place that text in context it would help you understand its meaning. If your intent is to try to use the Bible to prove your pre-conceived ideas are correct then you will never understand it.
Sigh...
Oh I understand that horrible, obsolete, irrelevant, repulsive, ancient, obnoxious, barbaric, execrable, inappropriate, offensive, savage, horrendous, abominable, loathsome, repugnant, disgusting, inapplicable, and unsubstantiated pile of lies and bullshit plagiarized from myths and legend FAR! older than the Bible and the first appearance of the Hebrews. Some THOUSANDS of years older.
Do some research. All you have done is show even your lack of knowledge of your own religious book. How can you be so ignorant (ig•nor•unt) and ignorant (ig•nur•unt)?
Quit being so ignorant (ig•nor•unt) and ignorant (ig•nur•unt) and start learning how to use critical thinking, logical and deductive reasoning, and rational and analytical thought.
rmfr
Prove that your statement is true.
You might be confusing the laws humans make with objective morals.
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