Pseudo-christians, why do you usurp Yahweh's word?

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Pseudo-christians, why do you usurp Yahweh's word?

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Pseudo-christians, simply put, why do you take the ungodly position of not following your serial killer Bronze and Iron Age killer god named Yahweh, in the blatant fact that you’re not even supposed to be on this Atheist unbelieving forum in the first place? Where do you get this authority?

"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works." (2 John 1:9-11)

“Do not be deceived: ‘Evil company corrupts good habits” (1 Corinthians 15:33)

“Be sure of this, that no immoral or impure or greedy person, that is, an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.  Let no one deceive you with empty arguments, for because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the disobedient. so do not be associated with them. For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light.” (Ephesians 5:5-8)

"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)

What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? "Nothing!". Spiritually speaking, they have different everythings....” (Ephesians 6:15)

As comic relief, John 6IX Breezy briefly stepped out of his former sophomoric stance of not following his set protocols that allows him to conveniently run from disturbing discussion relative to his faith, by essentially stating to me upon this topic “Let it go.” Yep, the pseudo-christian kitchen is getting too hot for him. Trust me, its going to get a lot hotter for him! LOL
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Pseudo-christians, where are

Pseudo-christians, where are you? Come out of hiding because you can't remove the passages in question that I've posed to you at your embarrassment.

The least of which, you would think that John 6IX Breezy would have a refutation, either biblical or apologetic, but where is he? YES, with the other like-minded pseudo-christians that remain hidden to actual biblical axioms!

Atheists, have you seen any pseudo-christians from this forum run past your house?

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Pseudo-christians, where are

*crickets* LOL

Diotrephes's picture
21stCenturyIcon...,

21stCenturyIcon...,

I think you misquoted Ephesians 6:15.

Ephesians 6:15 (TLB) = "15 Wear shoes that are able to speed you on as you preach the Good News of peace with God."

21stCenturyIconoclast's picture
Diotrephes,

Diotrephes,

You are correct. I can't remember where I got the bible passage that states what the misquoted one does, therefore I removed it.

The remaining passages are good enough to show the pseudo-christian that they're being hypocritical to their brutal Yahweh gods inspired word. I pity them upon Judgment Day, LOL.

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21 st century,

21 st century,
Do you want to come across mean because it makes me want to yell at you stop it! like I previously did to another member. Christianity is open to interpretation. there are a lot of good misguided christians. maybe johns one of those. or maybe he's open minded enough to listen To all sides. You making our side seem mean:(

21stCenturyIconoclast's picture
Miss JamieB,

Miss JamieB,

I think I told you before, there should be no more hand-holding, placating, and letting these hypocritical fools run rough shod over the population because of their primitive beliefs, period. They are to be challenged, and when they RUN, like in the case of this topic, they are to be shown for what they are, hypocritical inept fools in the 21st century.

For instance, look how John 6IX Breezy has come up with an insidious little ploy to save himself from further embarrassment from myself and others, regarding his pseudo-christianity, in setting three protocols that one has to meet before he engages upon the topic at hand. This shows how scared he is in the discussion of his faith. LOL

How can I be "nice" to these fools when I've seen first hand in what Christianity has done to my friends and family, even going to the point of it causing death! Enough is enough.

Christianity CANNOT be interpreted when the passages in question are LITERAL.

Now ,back to our regular programming………. :)

“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus." (Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, 30 July, 1816)

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21st Century

21st Century
I Feel so much remorse for the people I led to Jesus. My best friend in highschool was one. I would have married her if I were a lesbian or she was a man. Instead she got saved. I got married and her first sexual experience was torment. Guy gave her some drugs opiates possibly and later was diagnosed pyscsophrenic and bi polar. Now she has hallucinations of angels and demons and is obsessed with Jesus. she's overweight from the phyc drugs. never married or kids. in and out of hospitals and still obsessed with Jesus. Trump too. Her mom later told me I wish she never got saved and I had a huge part in that. Im so sorry christianity was part in a death in your family. I hate it too. I can only imagine how you feel. I used to Jump up on the bed or table and tell people in my family to stop screaming at each other because it makes me so sad. Ill Try to be adult in this forum.

21stCenturyIconoclast's picture
JamieB,

JamieB,

We all "evolve," and you thought you were doing the right thing at that given time, therefore, once you saw the light in the future, you can't be held responsible for your friends subsequent life being hellish by joining the primitive faith of Christianity. Lest you forget, and as shown, there were other entities that you had absolutely no control over that were in part, the impetus of her downfall, Christianity or not.

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LogicForTW's picture
I do not know where you stand

@JamieB
I do not know where you stand on how much you blame yourself and how much remorse you feel, towards leading people to christ, but please, please please! do not shoulder the full blame of this. The people you led to jesus back then chose to listen to you, they probably had many factors that contributed to their final decision.

You may have played a role, and there is remorse in that. But you are allowed to forgive yourself, you do not have to carry the burden of remorse. Simply learn from the mistakes you made, appologize to the people you have made a mistake with, and if needed make further amends.

Slightly unrelated but:

Probably one of the most emotionally powerful things I ever seen (to me) was when a man exonerated by DNA evidence after 20 years in prison forgave the women that erroneously put him there. Not because of a religion or something like that. But because this man figured out many years before it is far better to forgive others, (or yourself,) then to carry it ("it" being hate, sadness, remorse, or other powerful unpleasant feeling,) around day after day.

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@JamieB: "I Feel so much

@JamieB: "I Feel so much remorse for the people I led to Jesus."

Hello JamieB. I kind of know how you feel. In another life in a distant galaxy called the 1970s I worked in the tourism industry. I recommended scenic flights over the Antarctic out of New Zealand to some people. I would have gone myself if I could have afforded it. Some of them took those flights. One of the flights never came back (Google Mount Erebus and Air New Zealand). So did I cause those people to die? I felt like I did.

But really we're all responsible for our own actions. Other people can give us advice or lead us on, but the decision is always our own. I don't think you can lead people to Jesus unless they're already primed for it through their upbringing. It's a tragedy all round, because once those people catch the Jesus bug, they're impelled to run around infecting others. Let's hope that one day we can find a cure for this awful disease.

21stCenturyIconoclast's picture
Algebe,

Algebe,

We can, in bringing back the Colosseum and providing enough lions this time to eradicate all mind sets that follow this disgusting faith in the 21st century.

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Algebe's picture
@21stCenturyIcon

@21stCenturyIcon

While I can be merciless to Xtians who suggest that their stupid creed is the essential source of all morality, I think that most victims of goditis are more to be pitied than blamed.

However, the idea of a gladitorial contest to the death between Cardinals and Ayatollahs has considerable appeal. Last god standing can fight the tiger.

21stCenturyIconoclast's picture
Algebe,

Algebe,

"I think that most victims of goditis are more to be pitied than blamed."

The only problem with this proposition, is the fact that in the meantime as they are being pitied, they VOTE, and the real zealots that actually follow the bible to the letter, commit horrific crimes in the name of their serial killer Yahweh god.

Thank Allah that the upcoming generations are leaving the primitive Bronze and Iron Age behind, where it was meant to be.

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LogicForTW's picture
I agree with both of you.

I agree with both of you.
I propose a compromise: how about just the most extreme followers that do the most proselytizing. AND all the religious "leaders." If these supposed gods want to jump in and save their most extreme devout and their religious leaders they are more then welcome to :)

JamieB's picture
Thanx guys for forgiving my

Thanx guys for forgiving my sins. Thought only Jesus could do that. Awe:)
For my friend who see hallucinations I bet it would be easier for her to deny the demons angels she see if she didn't believe in the first place. I'm working through things I should've worked through in my 20 's.
As a teen I had a purpose and was daily inspired by that. Then in my 20's I thought I knew it all and didn't care to know much more. But I was really sad. My 30's I realized I know soooo little. And I've been hungry to learn more.
So as my 40's approach I'm like "bitch do something. ". Still have so much to figure out. But I'm learning. Thank u all for your sweet comforting words

Charlie's picture
Algebe

Algebe

Wasn't there a movie made about this crash? ..
I remember watching a crash story where the survivors ate the dead to survive..

Algebe's picture
@Charlie: "I remember

@Charlie: "I remember watching a crash story where the survivors ate the dead.."
You're thinking about the one in South America. I think it was a high school football team or something.

Everyone died instantly in the Air New Zealand Mt. Erebus crash. The DC10 plane flew straight into the side of a volcano at full speed.

Charlie's picture
Onya thanks.

Onya thanks.

Algebe's picture
@JamieB "Still have so much

@JamieB "Still have so much to figure out."

That's the whole meaning of life. You don't start to get it until you realize how little you understand. The religion peddlers try to sell you cheap and easy answers out of their black book, but really you only learn by reading your own book of life one page at a time.

Enjoy your thirties and forties. You only get once chance. The fifties are ok too, and the sixties are cool, except for all the fliers from retirement homes and funeral insurance companies. None of those ages have enough years in them to waste time thinking about the afterlife. Here and now.

UnKnown's picture
1. "Everyone who goes on

1. "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works." (2 John 1:9-11) - This is basically saying that we shouldn't give a welcome to false teachers. So, we should not give them a chance to teach. If false teachers come to the house (or the church), we should not let them in. We should not even greet them. If we greet them, we share in their evil task. Because the purpose of their visit is to teach errors. If they come to listen, they can listen, but not preach their falsehoods. It does not however prevent us going to them. We are told to go to them (a.k.a you/this website). However, if you don't want us, we will leave. Private Property and all that.
2. “Do not be deceived: ‘Evil company corrupts good habits” (1 Corinthians 15:33) - Paul is telling us that in associating with false teachers, we will be adversely influenced by them. The truth is that false teachings do not lead to holiness.
3. "So do not be associated with them." (Ephesians 5:5-11) - The "them" refers to the empty arguments, not the people who say them.
4. "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14) - It says that we shouldn't join the unbelievers for their unbelief.
5. “What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? "Nothing!". Spiritually speaking, they have different everythings....” (Ephesians 6:15) - Nothing in here says that we shouldn't communicate with you guys.
P.S. Just because "Pseudo-Christians" as you put it, don't respond, doesn't mean that they have run away. You are very quick to conclusion when no one responds to your accusations. When I didn't respond to you, you automatically assumed that I had 'run away', when in fact I forgot about it. To back such a baseless claim, when other possible reasons why are just as likely (like me forgetting), is ignorance. Plain and simple ignorance on your part. Period.

JamieB's picture
Unknown

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It's great that you interpret these verses that you are aloud to speak to us on these forums, but are you allowing yourself to consider opposing opinions?
“Do not be deceived: ‘Evil company corrupts good habits” (1 Corinthians 15:33) - Paul is telling us that in associating with false teachers, we will be adversely influenced by them. The truth is that false teachings do not lead to holiness.
What are you saying is holiness? Christian tend to be the least "holy" in my experience.

UnKnown's picture
Matthew Henry writes in a

Matthew Henry writes in a commentary of 1 Corinthians 15:33: Possibly, some of those who said that there was no resurrection of the dead were men of loose lives, and endeavoured to countenance their vicious practices by so corrupt a principle; and had that speech often in their mouths Let us eat and drink, for to-morrow we die. Now, the apostle grants that their talk was to the purpose if there was no future state. But, having confuted their principle, he now warns the Corinthians how dangerous such men’s conversation must prove. He tells them that they would probably be corrupted by them, and fall in with their course of life, if they gave into their evil principles. Note, Bad company and conversation are likely to make bad men. Those who would keep their innocence must keep good company. Error and vice are infectious: and, if we would avoid the contagion, we must keep clear of those who have taken it. He that walketh with wise men shall be wise; but a companion of fools shall be destroyed, Prov. 13:20 . Here is an exhortation to break off their sins, and rouse themselves, and lead a more holy and righteous life.

21stCenturyIconoclast's picture
UnKnown,

UnKnown,

GAWD DAMMIT, show respect and quit using the generic term "god" when referring to your serial killer god of Christianity, his name was YAHWEH, get it?

You act as though your primitive faith didn't have a named god named Yahweh! In the same context, the Muslim god is named Allah, understood? Besides, using their given names helps put these gods where they belong, in the primitive past, do you understand? Yes?

UnKnown's picture
God has many names in the

God has many names in the bible. One of those Yahweh, another Lord, and another, God (Galatians 4:4-7/Genesis 17:1-2/Exodus 6:2-3).

Diotrephes's picture
Exodus 3:15 (ERV) = "And God

Exodus 3:15 (ERV) = "And God said, “Tell the Israelites that you were sent by Yahweh, the God of your ancestors—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob. This will always be my name. It is how I want the people to remember me from now on."

Hosea 12:5 (ERV) = "Yes, Yahweh is the God of the armies. His name is Yahweh."

xenoview's picture
Unknown

Unknown
How do you know who is a wise man and who is a fool? I believe the one who says their righteous is a fool? How do you know who is righteous? You speak of evil, how do you know when someone is evil?

UnKnown's picture
The Bible

The Bible

Nyarlathotep's picture
UnKnown - The Bible

UnKnown - The Bible

Do you think it is an accident that you picked a subjective, contradictory source; allowing you to define anything you don't like as evil?

UnKnown's picture
Mate, if it was up to me,

Mate, if it was up to me, homosexual acts would be allowed, as well as other stuff. This doesn't allow me define "anything I don like" as evil.

SecularSonOfABiscuitEater's picture
I don't ever say anything

I don't ever say anything about 21stcentury's behavior on here because personally, I kind of enjoy the broad spectrum of personalities I see here and I think that we cannot all be good cops. Having said that, I agree with the rest of you that the abusive language will not sway a Christian or anyone else for that matter.

I'll tell you what 21stCenturyIcon, from observation, it's easy to tell that Christians do not normally care to research the Atheist argument to understand our POV's, nevertheless our secular language. So I ask you now. When you call them "Pseudo-Christians" do you really think they know that you're mocking them?

I think a good post from you would be about that specific term. What is does it really mean to you? What do you see that makes you draw for it as often as you do? Who knows. Could be a real eye opener for em. you know.. with out having to hold a hand.

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