Science Unspoken Axiom #1: Deities are nonsense

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sourcecodewizard's picture
Your first sentence is

Your first sentence is contradictory. The magic man has a purpose according to the teaching of Christianity.

Lol, I notice you did not dispute the list of gigantic holes in knowledge that I pointed out after your last literature review with cited references. Guys like you are a laugh, scurrying back to ambiguous statements and touting credentials when you have no actual REASONING. "We are the wise science religious leaders, bow to our knowledge". You are the same guys who point fingers at the religious leaders and here you are doing the exact same thing. Hypocrite. Debate the actual argument. Oh wait then it shows that you 1) Have faith in science fantasy that is 2) based upon a single pixel of the image of knowledge needed to justify your conjecture based faith and 3) It would show blatant contradiction because **SHOCKINGLY** you have never addressed the signal from SETI.

Keep walking around the issue. Show some more pictures of rocks and send them to SETI and tell them to shut down because any signal will just be patterns that humans find anyway. Except that you and your sci-boy fantasy fanatics would be the first one celebrating a signal from ET. Hypocrite.

All why keeping a straight face and teaching kids that computers self assemble from magic magnets because the wise men on the mountains say so.....oh and let's not forget to mentioned that they are all funded by other Axom #1 thinkAlikes, hmmm maybe that has something to do with it.

Calilasseia's picture
Bollocks. The only gigantic

Bollocks. The only gigantic holes visible here are the ones in your assertions.

First of all, the requisite chemical reactions work. Second, chemical reactions that are demonstrated to work, are far more plausible than an imaginary magic man from mythology. Third, you haven't read any of those papers, know nothing of their contents, and therefore, your assertions about them are nothing but the product of your ringpiece.

Meanwhile, do you know what it takes to convert the "design" assertion into something other than a piece of verbal diarrhoea on your part? Only I'm still waiting for you to display the intellectual cojones required to take up that challenge. Though I suspect that you're such a eunuch in this department, that I'll be worm food before you do.

arakish's picture
@ source code that does work

@ source code that does work

Did you remember that nice vinaigrette with that asinine word-salad?

CyberLN's Razor: A nice vinaigrette dressing must be served with any word salad.

rmfr

arakish's picture
@ sourcecodemigraine

@ sourcecodemigraine

And where in 7734 did this hoowhee about "magic magnets" suddenly come from?

rmfr

Calilasseia's picture
He almost certainly never

He almost certainly never attended a basic chemistry class, because he would have learned the basics of chemical bonding if he had, and wouldn't have posted the retarded assertions about chemistry he has done. Oh wait, wasn't it Arthur C Clarke, who said any sufficiently advanced technology looks like magic to those who aren't capable of understanding it? Seems our latest arrival is still stuck in the pre-Wöhler world of vitalism.

sourcecodewizard's picture
they poofed into existence to

they poofed into existence to show they know how to follow math. I thought you already knew that.
Have you been looking at other peoples answers again?

David Killens's picture
@sourcecodewizard

@sourcecodewizard

You seem to assume a lot. When this god of yours decides to interact, by what method? A Playstation controller?

This is what happens when one makes broad assertions but is unable to provide any details.

sourcecodewizard's picture
The OP was a proof by

The OP was a proof by contradiction.

With all your posts no argument at all. Hypocrite.

arakish's picture
@ source code

@ source code

It would be nice if you would quit stating the obvious about yourself after almost every paragraph.

Hypocrite.

rmfr

WrongVerb's picture
I reject the Bible as an

I reject the Bible as an accurate source of historical information.

Setting that objection aside, just because someone reports interacting with a person they believe to be Jesus doesn't mean they actually interacted with the Jesus of the Christian tradition.

David Killens's picture
I question the "smarter" part

I question the "smarter" part. To me it appears this god had access to a toolbox/program similar to Sim City and constructed the most fucked up and dysfunctional habitation possible.

For my body, one end of my digestive system I share with my breathing system. It is possible and many people have died from choking on their food. The other end of my digestive system is where the garbage is expelled, in very close proximity to one of my treasured body parts, my reproductive organs.

Who puts a gourmet restaurant on top of a garbage dump on top of a pleasure park?

sourcecodewizard's picture
You are certainly free to

You are certainly free to build one yourself seeing as how you seem to have so much knowledge about the right way to do it.
Start with building your own universe then life then jump inside one of the living beings and you are all set.
What's stopping you?

arakish's picture
@ sourcecodemigraine

@ sourcecodemigraine

You are certainly free to build one yourself seeing as how you seem to have so much knowledge about the right way to do it. Start with building your own universe then life then jump inside one of the living beings and you are all set. What's stopping you?

Funny you should post this. I am. Have been working on that multiverse for about 7 or 8 years. Coming along nicely. It already has one planet with a biosphere even more diverse than the Earth's. Hell, that one planet already has at least 52 different intelligent species. Of those 52 species, the Lumaru Vinyar could be said to be the prefect species. However, you are going to have to wait until I finish the series of books I am writing before you can discover what makes them the perfect species.

At least ain't nuttin' stoppin' me.

rmfr

sourcecodewizard's picture
So you are one of those who

So you are one of those who believe in the multiverse?

HAHAHA. OMF(Magic Particles).

That about explains it.

arakish's picture
@ sourcecodemigraine

@ sourcecodemigraine

I do NOT believe in the multiverse, I CREATED mine own multiverse separate from this universe. And trust me, in my multiverse, even the single celled organisms have greater comprehension and understanding and intelligence.

rmfr

sourcecodewizard's picture
What a relief. You keep your

What a relief. You keep your single organisms in cells? I bet they don't like that one bit.

David Killens's picture
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David Killens's picture
Because I do not live in a

Because I do not live in a fantasy world?

If I could, you would get a text message that reads: "So long and thanks for all the fish."

Of course, basic engineering points out the flaws in human physiology. Just common sense tells us that placing the brain higher than the heart is flawed. In most quadrupeds, fish, and numerous species both organs are relatively on the same plane. That makes sense. The giraffe requires a special system to deal with this great variance in distance.

Evolution gives a sane reasoning why our bodies are the way they are, with so many design flaws. But those same design flaws are a powerful counter-argument against a "designed universe".

Unless of course, this god is a totally fucked up moron.

sourcecodewizard's picture
It's easy to throw poo from

It's easy to throw poo from the cheap seats. Go ahead and build a conscious being starting with nothing and do it better THEN you can talk.

Besides the fact that it is irrelevant to the logic of the OP and logic in general. Computers do not build themselves just like certain light flickers cannot occur without intelligence.

Very simple reasoning that you people constantly avoid.

arakish's picture
@ sourcecodemigraine

@ sourcecodemigraine

Speaking of light flickers, you still have not provided any evidence. This only makes your brain/mind look like a baboon with two club feet.

Where is your evidence? Until you present actual OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to back up your preposterous claims, you are doing nothing more than trolling and lying. Does it not shame you to be thought of as a LIAR? And a WWW Troll?

rmfr

sourcecodewizard's picture
Human Brain = OBJECTIVE HARD

Human Brain = OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE
Computers don't build themselves. Computers don't program themselves.

Where is your OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE showing us how your magic magnets formed life after "poofing" themselves into existence? Oh wait, you don't have any!!

What ironic hypocrisy!!!!

https://www.dictionary.com/ <---that's for you in case you are interested in what I just said.

arakish's picture
sourcecodemigraine: "What

sourcecodemigraine: "What ironic hypocrisy!!!!"

Wow! Says he who has posted nothing but...

rmfr

sourcecodewizard's picture
Brains = Evidence

Brains = Evidence

you people: "But they magically self assembled because we say so. Look at all our papers, obviously everyone should believe us. Now fund us more."

Calilasseia's picture
Except that scientists don't

Except that scientists don't postulate this. They postulate instead that chemical reactions produced simple, antecedent protocells, which then, over time, replicated, produced descendants that acquired new features, among those features being the ability to form aggregates of cells, which then differentiated and specialised.

If all you have to offer is sad, pathetic and entirely typical supernaturalist caricatures of the actual science you think hubristically you're in a position to mock, then your posturing as being in that position is an even bigger sham than your original post in this thread.

David Killens's picture
I do not pretend to be a god,

I do not pretend to be a god, not do I pretend to have enough knowledge to be capable of assembling a human being. I am pointing out flaws, you counter by requesting something almost impossible.

But I was pointing out such very simple engineering fasts that the more vertical displacement between a pump and destination, the pump must work harder, is more prone to failure, and problems get magnified.

Please define 'light flicker", and give an example. If you are referencing KIC 8462852, then the dips in light magnitude have been explained. And no god required.

Sheldon's picture
I concur entirely. Though we

I concur entirely. Though we could add to this that it's a demonstrable fact that humans create fictional deities. Also that the main theistic religions now still in vogue all make claims that are directly contradicted by objective scientific evidence.

If anyone makes a claim for a belief they can't demonstrate any objective evidence for, and that contradicts known scientific facts, and outrages reason, then one wonders on what basis they're denying all the other religions that do the same?

Cognostic's picture
Zard:

Zard:
"the fact that our world is designed is more certain that the existence of our parents"

Interesting assertion. I can visit my parents. I can't wait to see how you prove this.

HYH? "Science fantasy combined with conjecture and wishful thinking have built this magical world of “what if land” where people actually believe that there is some factual, scientific basis to explain how life began."
NO ONE KNOWS HOW LIFE BEGAN. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

We do know that inorganic material can be combined to create organic material. THAT IS ALL WE KNOW.

SCIENCE SAYS NOTHING ABOUT "GOD OF THE GAPS." ALL SCIENCE SAYS IS "RELIGIOUS CLAIMS HAVE NOT MET THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF" THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR GOD OR GODS. THAT'S IT. NOTHING MORE.

"To anyone using logic it is clear that our reality must have been designed."
PLEASE PROVE YOUR CLAIM. "THE EMPEROR IS NOT WEARING A NEW SUIT, HE IS BUTT NAKED."

1)God knows how to make it all better. THEN WHY DOESN'T HE? Your god allows rape, murder, disease, crib death and worse. FUCK YOUR GOD!

2. We are world builders and being a world builder is a sacred trust. I HAVE NEVER BUILT A WORLD. NOT ONCE IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

3.Hence, this is a proving ground where we prove we can be trusted. I DON'T NEED TO PROVE SHIT TO A MURDERING BUTTERING ASSHOLE WHO NOT ONLY ALLOWS BUT ENCOURAGES MURDER, RAPE, BUTCHERY, AND ALL MANNER OF MORALITY. IF I WAS GOD, NO ONE WOULD EVER BE RAPED AND DISEASE WOULD BE A THING OF THE PAST. I AM MORE MORAL THAN YOUR ASSHOLE GOD.

KNOCK KNOCK
"Whose there"
"JESUS, Let me in."
"Why?"
"SO I CAN SAVE YOU/"
"Save me from what?"
"FROM THE PLACE, I MADE FOR YOU, IF YOU DON'T LET ME IN."

FUCK YOUR GOD!!!

sourcecodewizard's picture
1) because this is a test

1) because this is a test
2) true, you will be culled, don't worry it will all be over soon
3) rant

doG's picture
"1) because this is a test."

"1) because this is a test."

Where does it say that? in the buybull? LOL. I see...LOL.

"2) True, you will be culled, don't worry, it will all be over soon."

Where does it say that? in the buybull? LMAO Bwaa haaa ha haaaaa...too funny...LOL

"3) rant"

LOL...the only rants I have ever witnessed first hand are from the mentally ill and christians. LOL.

arakish's picture
doG: "LOL...the only rants I

doG: "LOL...the only rants I have ever witnessed first hand are from the mentally ill and christians. LOL."

Too bad you did not join when I first did. Some of my earliest posts may have caused you to think the same...

rmfr

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