Science Unspoken Axiom #1: Deities are nonsense

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Tin-Man's picture
Re: SCW - "Everyone will,

Re: SCW - "Everyone will, however, understand that fairness of their reward or punishment since everything will be laid out for everyone to see....when it is over. Right now it is still testing time...."

Holy shit, everybody!!! I just now figure out who Sourcecodewhackadoodle really is! It's been staring us in the face all this time. Sooooo damn obvious it is no wonder we missed it! Hey, Source! Say the line for us! Just once! Pleeeeeeeeeeeease!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4siRWMULqj4

Skeptical Kevin's picture
@sourcecodewizard,

@sourcecodewizard,
I've asked you twice now how the suffering of good people at the hands of evil people will be "worth it" as you claim, and you are simply not answering. I'm not asking you to back up your claim nor am I even challenging it. I'm simply asking you to qualify it and this seems impossible for you.

Why in the name of Apophis should anyone believe anything you say when you can't respond to direct questions regarding the nature of your claims?

Grinseed's picture
We aren't evidence of any god

We aren't evidence of any god.
We are evidence of the processes of physics and chemistry. Abiogenesis? We can only speculate for the moment, but its very clear the answer will best be revealed through scientific research, rather than pious navel gazing and wish fulfilment.

My brother and I use to make radio transmitters and receivers out of clumsy old valves and condensers etc, guitar amplifiers using transistors, and my dear bro made the first digital watch I ever saw (early 70s) clumsy and definitely unfashionable. In my spare time I constructed computers from selected parts and created some awesome gaming rigs. I have worked for computer companies and for those that made hearing aids and cochlear implants devices I personally benefit from. My knowledge that science works in not in question. Your understanding of it certainly is.

Life is not some dystopian sci-fi simulation and neither is it controlled by supernatural deities. My interest goes dead cold whenever anyone uses those two preposterous ideas to explain reality.
I did use the word 'stupid', but I also call human beings, human beings. Unless people emulate computers you seem to enjoy trashing them as being incapable of utilising reason or logic, not understanding your particular view about reality or being unwitting victims of some perceived brainwashing conspiracy by Science (note the respectful capital S); a claim you can not evidence.

You invoke Christian principles but avoid a straight out commitment to it, preferring to label yourself a 'wannabe', some enigmatic rogue outrider of the faith. That's ok, you are free, as we all are, to believe whatever you want. Its just another claim anyway. I question what brings you here to make claims and attacks on our intelligence and supposedly imminent post-death culling for how stupid...sorry how brainwashed we are. All I see is another ego enjoying an invalid sense of superiority due to their special understanding of god. The age of the Prophet is a long time gone.

My bet is SETI will find nothing, if only because of the size of the universe. In twenty years the largest single computerised endeavour ever organised has only just finished covering 2% of the known universe. At that rate it will take 1,000 years to scan the entire universe. We're going to have to settle into some serious social and economic global stability if we intend to finish this first scan.

It was playfully noted a long time ago, by Asimov I think, or Clarke, that the very first radio contact of earth by an alien civilisation may be the earliest transmissions of I Love Lucy. That would be embarrassing but I add that at that point Earth might be in the process of being engulfed by our dying Sun.

Anyway back to my blissful ignorant ways.

sourcecodewizard's picture
the brainwashing claim is due

the brainwashing claim is due to accept the basic logic of the OP. It is simple reasoning. It is not about finding ET it is about what standard of evidence constitutes acceptance that something is designed. Such a signal correctly would meet that standard. As such, our brains are even greater evidence. Simple argument. Why not address the point?

Randomhero1982's picture
When I say a "flickering

When I say a "flickering light" I am not talking about a pulsar or any other naturally caused star.

Here. Let's say you went outside on a clear evening and looked up at Alpha Centauri A through a telescope.
You noticed it that it's light intensity was changing from normal to very dim at a relatively high frequency.

The level of sheer unadulterated utter bollocks displayed by one poster, has really hit epic levels.

But this was beyond spectacular.

'Very dim' ironically is the only words needed.

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Cognostic's picture
There is an positive

There is an positive correlation between the facts and evidence atheists use to support their opinions and the inane assertions theists make to avoid the evidence and facts,

sourcecodewizard's picture
clever line with No evidence

clever line with No evidence and No facts. Just an assertation based on your opinions with nothing to back it up.
Hey you people may not be logical but at least you are consistently ironic. That has to count for something.

Randomhero1982's picture
Says the retard who cannot

Says the retard who cannot form an actual logical argument and makes wild assertions to suit his own informational bias.

sourcecodewizard's picture
wow, that was incredibly

wow, that was incredibly insightful. I can see why people think you are so smart now.

arakish's picture
@ Random

@ Random

That image made me also think of dweeb. Then it hit me: DWoB (Damned World of Batshit).

rmfr

sourcecodewizard's picture
and you were doing so well

and you were doing so well for a while there.
You were almost beginning to comprehend the ACTUAL logic of the argument of the OP....Almost....sigh

chimp3's picture
"first, radio static will

"first, radio static will never produce a valid radio program. Neither will TV noise produce a valid TV program. So how could molecules randomly create working computers? It does not make any sense."

Who the fuck is claiming molecules randomly became computers?

Cognostic's picture
INTENTIONALLY REPEATED:

INTENTIONALLY REPEATED:
There is an positive correlation between the facts and evidence atheists use to support their opinions and the inane assertions theists make to avoid the evidence and facts,

sourcecodewizard's picture
the whole primordial soup

the whole primordial soup idea, that's just gist of it
and WE are computers, obviously. Although some of us are not very bright computers.

arakish's picture
@ sourcecodemigraine

@ sourcecodemigraine

What the fuck does Geographic Information Science and Technology have to do with the horse hoowhee you be stanking our home with?

rmfr

Talyyn's picture
@sourcecodewizard

@sourcecodewizard

You consider yourself very bright, aren't you?

Randomhero1982's picture
Definitely

Definitely ProgrammingGodJordan, surely.

arakish's picture
@ Random

@ Random

I've been wondering the same damn thing. Even logged on just post the same thing, but you beat me because I working on another paper for work.

rmfr

Randomhero1982's picture
@ Arakish

@ Arakish

Maybe aliens transmitted your ideas to me via a fucking flickering star!

arakish's picture
@ Random

@ Random

Thank goodness for Depends. That was definitely LMAOWFROFPMS.

Thanks for the laugh. Maybe it was the same star that talked to those 3 Wise Men?

rmfr

Randomhero1982's picture
Pmsl!

Pmsl!

Yep, 'three wise men' and a shit load of booze!

"Let's follow that flickering star Dave!"
"Brilliant idea Trev!"

*stumbling upon the inn*

"I'm fucking wasted Dave, we need to crash somewhere!"

"I'll tell you what mate, theres a bird in that manger that's just had a baby, let's tell her God sent us to bring gifts!"

"Pahhhhh hahahaha you horrible shit!"

"Hahaha I know, but shes thick as shit, I heard her say she got knocked up without 'avin a cock up her!"

"Pahahahahaa oh dont! I cant! If I laugh anymore I'll either shit, puke or both!"

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sourcecodewizard's picture
people like you make it so

people like you make it so easy for people like me
thanks for just being yourself

sourcecodewizard's picture
I cannot imagine having your

I cannot imagine having your life. Craving to be the "cool guy" but always falling short. I'm actually not being snide or sarcastic. Most people accept who they are at some point but guys like you want to say the real witty thing that is going to make everyone applaud. You want it so bad but no matter how hard you try it just isn't there. kind of sad. really.

arakish's picture
@ sourcecodewizard

@ sourcecodewizard

Who is this addressed to? Randomhero1982 or Arakish? The line at the left says Random, but since you failed to address your post (as I did above), this reply is making you look the imbecilic retard you are trying to pretend to be. Address your replies or do not bother posting them. You are continuing to embarrass yourself.

rmfr

sourcecodewizard's picture
my point exactly

my point exactly

Randomhero1982's picture
I cannot imagine having your

I cannot imagine having your life. Craving to be the "cool guy" but always falling short. I'm actually not being snide or sarcastic

Well that's fine with me, but may I add, I don't give a fuck! :)

The difference between us is that YOU actively look for atheists, YOU deliberately try to annoy them, YOU want people to conform to your beliefs or accept your dog shit ideas/thoughts.

Whereas, I don't care, I like to have a bit of a laugh.
I have no issue with theists, providing they dont ask for special treatment, or try forcing they're magical bearded wizard, theology or ridiculous fucking books on me.

I've never gone on a theist website or forum in order to post bollocks, in a vein attempt to goad the users...

...because, well... I'm better then that! :D

sourcecodewizard's picture
actually I am not about

actually I am not about groups or acceptance at all. Far from it.
I am about accuracy. That all. Drawing conclusions based upon evidence.

All joking aside.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ SCW

@ SCW

drawing conclusions from evidence like the grown up science world

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”

Just change your moniker to Humpty 2. Then we will all know that as a famous guy once said "You cannot be serious!"

Apart from the irony burn from that extract from your ridiculous post, you have failed to post anything remotely factual, logical or promising as a basis for discussion.

Then you fail to answer questions. Then you get snippy when you finally realise that the laughter you hear is at your posts, not with you.

As my grandpa used to say " If wit was shit; you would be constipated"

sourcecodewizard's picture
That was the most amazing

That was the most amazing post I have ever read. Even better than your last one but how is that possible? Maybe the end is near. Damn you are an amazing writer.

Talyyn's picture
@sourcecodewizard

@sourcecodewizard

You know, if you keep posting these kind of things, no one will ever think you are a serious person who can be debated with. Do you realize the amount of theists like you who come here, with the circular reasoning, false equivalency and ad hominem attacks.

If you came her with legitimate questions and true desire to learn, you would have been respected.

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