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SFT

If your magic book is inerrant, why is so much effort invested to silence or kill its critics?

Is it ever moral for 50+ year old man to have sex with a nine year old child?
What is the penalty for apostasy in Islam?
What evidence can you demonstrate to support your belief that a deity exists?

I dare you to post in this thread and ignore these questions you have dodged for months.

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David Killens's picture
Is it ever moral for 50+ year

Is it ever moral for 50+ year old man to have sex with a nine year old child?
What is the penalty for apostasy in Islam?
What evidence can you demonstrate to support your belief that a deity exists?

Sheldon's picture
I anticipate his response

I anticipate his response will be Shakespearean.

xenoview's picture
I doubt he will even answer

I doubt he will even answer your questions.

Cognostic's picture
What is even more interesting

What is even more interesting is "Thighing." Muhammad waited until A was 9 to rape her but prior to that he engaged in ancient and well respected Islamic tradition of "Thighing." Muhammad was a sick bastard.

He could also tell us why the Quaran was written and distributed in 1923, over 1300 years after the death of Muhammad and why all Quarans not selected as the official Quaran were destroyed.

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@Searching for truth: A lion

@Searching for truth: A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep

LOL.

And which particular flock do you belong to?

Tin-Man's picture
Re: "A lion does not concern

Re: "A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep."

Well now, that then certainly begs the question of why in the world would so many theist sheep bother to stroll their happy butts up into this lion's den?

Sheldon's picture
So much for your pretence of

So much for your pretence of looking for common ground.

Cognostic's picture
Smelling like a lion is no

Smelling like a lion is no more an indicator that you are one than making an ignorant assertion.

Sheldon's picture
Seeking out the opinion of

Seeking out the opinion of people you now finally admit you have no interest in. It's clear that for once we're getting an honest opinion from you. It's a very edifying little outburst, though it was of course clear to me your only interest was sententious preaching from the very start.

As usual the idiocy of your post is so overstated you make it almost a guilty pleasure to point and laugh at your posts, but you never fail to induce contempt along with pity, in almost equal measure. Almost but not quite, as I despise the disgusting bigotry you have tried to pedal as objective morality on here, from the first, and the filthy vapid superstition that underpins it.

Your (Lion's) opinions might lack the intellectual rigour, and the moral fibre, to object to the vile bigotry contained within Islamic doctrine, and even lack the integrity to examine it's venerated paedophile prophet no matter how much you're asked for an honest opinion, but I do not, and if that makes me a sheep, then I can say unequivocally, that I am as proud of that title as any decent human being ought to be. I imagine Lions have a suitable orifice where they might insert their vile superstition as well, and I encourage you to make use of it now. Now run along...lion.

Talyyn's picture
Come on SFT, you don't have

Come on SFT, you don't have anything better than that? I thought, reading your posts that you saw yourself as wise, and the most important, humbled before your allah?

Sapporo's picture
I didn't realize that

I didn't realize that questions were opinions.

xenoview's picture
Wow sft showed up, but didn't

Wow sft showed up, but didn't answer the questions.

Cognostic's picture
He can't answer the questions

He can't answer the questions without having to alter his world view. Better to remain ignorant than admit you have been a fool.

Tin-Man's picture
Well, you can search for

Well, you can search for truth all day long. Doesn't necessarily mean you have to TELL the truth, though.

Searching for truth's picture
@Tinman

@Tinman

How you been buddy? I must say that I’m flattered that I get a whole special thread just for me and all my favorite atheists and anti-theists have all showed up with so much love and attention, you guys are making me tear up. I only wish there was a way for people to find answers to questions now a days hmmmm…. I wish we did not live in these dark times where we do not have access to almost limitless information at the tip of our fingers. I wish to live long enough to finally get to see the age of science and technology and maybe in the future we will create something……something we can call……damn it please help here…... like a place where we could search and find videos, articles, lectures, sports, movies, games and other forms of information simply by searching. I disagree with you, my heartless friend, I do have to tell the truth as it’s part of my faith. I only wish there was a way to at least try to find the truth. I wish people did not have to resort to me as the sole source for such answers on this entire planet, if only people were more genuine and cared to find answers themselves I would not have to carry such a heavy burden, too bad we do not have such a thing invented yet. Maybe people can go to (or call) their local mosques and ask those questions? Nah, that will actually require time, effort, and force them to actually have to listen, that’s way too much for anyone genuinely trying to find answers this bad, seems people now are just searching for 15 second answers then simply reply with their pre-packaged response that most likely has nothing to do with the answer of the original question. Oh well, back to my cave, my wife is trying to invent this round shaped thingy for some reason, not sure if it will ever take off but, it’s easier than hunting for dinner (again).

Sheldon's picture
"I only wish there was a way

"I only wish there was a way to at least try to find the truth. I wish people did not have to resort to me as the sole source for such answers on this entire planet,"

Sorry, did you mean Lion or Liar? It occurs to me it might be a typo.

Sapporo's picture
Searching for truth: @Tinman

Searching for truth: @Tinman

How you been buddy? I must say that I’m flattered that I get a whole special thread just for me and all my favorite atheists and anti-theists have all showed up with so much love and attention, you guys are making me tear up. I only wish there was a way for people to find answers to questions now a days hmmmm…. I wish we did not live in these dark times where we do not have access to almost limitless information at the tip of our fingers. I wish to live long enough to finally get to see the age of science and technology and maybe in the future we will create something……something we can call……damn it please help here…... like a place where we could search and find videos, articles, lectures, sports, movies, games and other forms of information simply by searching. I disagree with you, my heartless friend, I do have to tell the truth as it’s part of my faith. I only wish there was a way to at least try to find the truth. I wish people did not have to resort to me as the sole source for such answers on this entire planet, if only people were more genuine and cared to find answers themselves I would not have to carry such a heavy burden, too bad we do not have such a thing invented yet. Maybe people can go to (or call) their local mosques and ask those questions? Nah, that will actually require time, effort, and force them to actually have to listen, that’s way too much for anyone genuinely trying to find answers this bad, seems people now are just searching for 15 second answers then simply reply with their pre-packaged response that most likely has nothing to do with the answer of the original question. Oh well, back to my cave, my wife is trying to invent this round shaped thingy for some reason, not sure if it will ever take off but, it’s easier than hunting for dinner (again).

I notice that you do not consider Allah as being one possible source for information.

It is well known that Muslims have used an interpretation of their religious texts to claim justification for committing atrocities (for example, as Muhammad did according to Islam), and that they have also used an interpretation of their religious texts to claim that Islam is a religion of peace. So your answer is not satisfactory.

Also: Islamic dogma actually does permit lying.

Sheldon's picture
Is it ever moral to kill non

Is it ever moral to kill non Muslims?

Is it ever moral for a man in his 50 to rape a nine year old child?

What is the penalty for apostasy in Islam?

Do you believe a horse could ever fly?

What objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity?

Rohan M.'s picture
Not to mention that the whole

Not to mention that the whole pretense of their false analogy to lions and sheep were rather troubling... I guess he’s one of those Muslims who fanasize about exterminating all of infideldom... :/

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ SfT" Maybe people can go to

@ SfT
" Maybe people can go to (or call) their local mosques and ask those questions? Nah, that will actually require time, effort, and force them to actually have to listen, that’s way too much for anyone genuinely trying to find answers this bad,'

As you now know and by my previous replies that you ignore or deny...I did, I have, and I disagree with the islamic scholars. as much as I disagree with the christian theologists. I have spent at least as much time as you researching and discussing various aspects of the "faiths" and have come to the inescapable conclusion that you are all spouting "bollocks" . You are an apologist SfT, a sad sad person who hides behind a pretence never daring to keek out behind their self imposed ignorance and discover the real world.

Answer Sheldon's legitimate and directed questions, then we can talk.

Sapporo's picture
I wonder who @Searching for

I wonder who @Searching for truth went to when he was allegedly "searching for truth" in anything other than Islam.

Rohan M.'s picture
@Sapporo Which begs the

@Sapporo Which begs the question: isn’t searching for ‘truth’ in Islamic scripture the very thing that has led people to realize that it’s a load of horseshit? So much for “Searching for TRUTH”...

Randomhero1982's picture
Change his handle to

Change his handle to Searching for Bollocks

Searching for truth's picture
That's the search that lead

That's the search that lead me here lol

Sheldon's picture
What led you here is ego,

What led you here is ego, most proselytising theists who come here are breathtakingly arrogant. You're not even original in that, and of course have the unabashed temerity to insist others defend their positions whilst like Breezy brushing away questions about your own.

Is it ever moral for a 50 year old man to rape a nine year old child?

What is the penalty for apostasy in Islam.

Is it ever moral for a muslim to kill a non muslim "wherever they find them"?

Can a horse EVER fly?

Do you believe you will get 72 female virgins replenished daily when you die?

Talyyn's picture
As for Islam, it is likely

As for Islam, it is likely that he is sunnite so even then i don't think he knows all the current denominations and those from the past. There was a movement called Mu'tazila which was rationalistic.

Searching for truth's picture
It's amazing seeing all you

It's amazing seeing all you "scholars" here yet, everyone is waiting for me to answer. Ironic.

NewSkeptic's picture
SFT,

SFT,

Ok, so you'd like answers from us instead. Okay, here are mine, feel free just to hit the agree button, or perhaps you could point out where I'm wrong?

If your magic book is inerrant, why is so much effort invested to silence or kill its critics?

Because it isn't, but the powerful perpetuate their positions with it, and therefore need to silence or kill its critics to maintain their positions of power.

Is it ever moral for 50+ year old man to have sex with a nine year old child?

Absurd, no it is never moral.

What is the penalty for apostasy in Islam?

Death and eternal torment.

What evidence can you demonstrate to support your belief that a deity exists?

Absolutely none.

Searching for truth's picture
"Absurd, no it is never moral

"Absurd, no it is never moral."

The irony lol

"Death and eternal torment."

Why does that seem to bother you? It's not like you beleive it. Do you?

"What evidence can you demonstrate to support your belief that a deity exists?"

What evidence you got that it doesn't? Oh, and I have all the eveidence I need. I've tried finding common ground her before and that did not work out. However, the 4 people I have been privately messaging have all seemed to find some common ground. While I won't go through the waste of time and effort to try that again. You are more than welcome to provide evidence Allah (specifically) does not exist.

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