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Tin-Man's picture
@Catholicray

@Catholicray

Alright, all kidding aside. In all honesty and sincerity, I really do hope you are only just goofing around for the sake of your personal amusement. I could actually appreciate that on some level, as a matter of fact. However, if you are actually being serious about the whole belief/disbelief nonsense you have conjured, then I fear you may be suffering from some form of mental break from reality. And I'm not even being my usual smart-ass self at the moment. I'm genuinely concerned.

It is obvious you are very devoted to your faith. And whether or not I agree with your particular faith (or any other faith, for that matter), I do happen to hold some amount of respect and appreciation for anybody who is truly dedicated to a chosen cause/belief. That being said, it has been my experience over the years that the more an individual is devoted to a belief/cause, the more that person becomes shaken/rattled/disturbed when that belief/cause is questioned and shown to be a less-than-credible belief/cause. For some people, the effects are unsettling, but they manage to cope and come to terms with the revelations. For others, unfortunately, having to face the reality of what is being presented to them can sometimes cause more mental/emotional distress than the person is prepared to handle. As a result, eradic and abnormal behavior can begin to manifest.

Granted, I am not a professional psychologist or therapist in any way, despite my years of experience dealing with all manners of mentally disturbed people. But you are apparently very devout in your religious beliefs, and you entered an atheist forum for whatever your reasons were. And in doing so, you began learning of things you had never heard before, with that information learned casting big dark shadows of doubt on an institution you hold dear to your heart. To be blunt, that could potentially cause considerable mental/emotional trauma.

Anyway, like I said, I really hope you are only messing around to have a bit of fun. Otherwise, I strongly recommend you seek professional counseling before your condition worsens. Take care.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ TM

@ TM

You ain't wrong bro. I was thinking exactly the same thing.
The rigidity and exclusionary dogma of the Catholic Church in particular can cause great distress when the fundamentals of its origin and dogma are not only questioned but demonstrated to be based on inaccuracies (aka political lies).
This can, and in my experience often does, lead to some trauma. Like many mental processes the one going through the trauma is often last to recognise what is happening, whereas it is all too visible to the onlooker.

Hang in there Ray...but this path of confusion you are on right now is not helping you.

arakish's picture
catholicray: "I don't believe

catholicray: "I don't believe God does not exist"

Already did, but I'll do it again.

I don't believe God does not exist = I do believe God does exist.

'Nuff said.

rmfr

Sheldon's picture
Seriously 3 pages of this

Seriously 3 pages of this idiocy, he's trolling. What I mean is, I do not believe he is not trolling.

dogalmighty's picture
LOL. too funny.

LOL. too funny.

Sky Pilot's picture
He gets the Breezy Award.

He gets the Breezy Award.

Cognostic's picture
Well I for one don't believe

Well I for one don't believe Catholic ray is not, not trolling.

Sheldon's picture
I think you're right....

I think you're right....

I mean I don't believe you're wrong.

What's funny is theists who come her and waste everyone's time with this dishonest woo woo, never seem to understand what it infers about their beliefs to the atheists reading it.

3 pages where they could have simply shared the best most compelling evidence for their beliefs. Yet we get dishonest semantics, angry ad hominem, sly double talk, sententious proselytising, faux piety, anything but a cogent objective reason to justify their belief in a bronze age superstition.

arakish's picture
Sheldon: "They could have

Sheldon: "They could have simply shared the best most compelling evidence for their beliefs. Yet we get dishonest semantics, angry ad hominem, sly double talk, sententious proselytising, faux piety, anything but a cogent objective reason to justify their belief in a bronze age superstition."

I am plagiarizing this.

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
@Sheldon Like I said.

@Sheldon Like I said. Scared shitless of an honest conversation.

dogalmighty's picture
My turn...

My turn...

I don't not believe, he is not, not scared shitless, of an honest conversation.

Sky Pilot's picture
If I had a belief that I

If I had a belief that I couldn't believe in because I don't believe in beliefs unless they are beliefs that I had before I believed in beliefs that I never had because belief in beliefs is just another belief when there are no beliefs I would have had a belief that I never had a belief.

Sheldon's picture
A belief is the affirmation

A belief is the affirmation of a claim.

...er, I mean I don't not believe that a belief is not...not the affirmation of a claim

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