Universal Love

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Universal Love

Hello lovers;

As a worshipper of the OverLord, I was recently reflecting on love and, more particularly, the fabric of universal Love woven into space and time.

Out of curiosity, do Atheists believe in the reality of Universal Love? Now - not necessarily according to Jesus - now - this idea pops up in Buddhism as well (which we know is a “religion” without a belief in God or Creation).

Heck! What about “The Beatles”? Do Atheists even like the Beatles? Do they even get what they’re throwing down?

Peace and Love, Atheists - May you find it through a personal relationship with the embodiment of compassion - your Christ and Lord, Jesus the Saviour of all man-kind.

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toto974's picture
Have you evidence that love

Have you evidence that love is an intrinsic property of the Universe? Why would it be woven in space-time itself? Love is a emotional and psychological construct made by humans (and possibly other living organisms.).

rat spit's picture
Well. To answer your question

Well. To answer your question - I feel universal Love everywhere. In fact, the personage of Jesus Christ is that universal Love.

Now, what you’re referring to is inter-relational emotions and what not. I am referring to a ubiquitous kind of all embracing, non-discriminatory love, which is the cause of itself.

Finally, referring to the type of love I am speaking of - do you have any evidence that it is NOT interwoven into space and time?

toto974's picture
@rat spit

@rat spit

Sadly, feeling something is not going to be sufficient. How are you sure that what you are feeling is not something else completely?

" I am referring to a ubiquitous kind of all embracing, non-discriminatory love, which is the cause of itself. " If it is so ubiquitous, how are you the only one (or the one of the few) that can detect it?

Finally, YOU are asserting, not ME. Unless you have the means to directly probe the structure of space-time itself (and not space AND time), all you are saying is your own assumptions, nothing more.

Sheldon's picture
rat spit

rat spit

"Finally, referring to the type of love I am speaking of - do you have any evidence that it is NOT interwoven into space and time?"

Argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, yet again. Nothing is validated by a lack of contrary evidence, as you have been told ad nauseam.

rat spit's picture
So, let me see if I have this

So, let me see if I have this right. You can love the starving children of Africa - but in doing so they will not receive any of that love?

You’re HORRIBLE!!! I’m not talking to you anymore!

toto974's picture
@ rat spit

@ rat spit

Completely misrepresenting what i said, using ad-hominem, and not answering legitimate questions. Where is the hell did i say anything abut starving children in Africa?

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@ rat spit

@ rat spit

Well if they're receiving love from anywhere else, it ain't doing them much good... Still starving last time I looked. Thank fuck for charitable organizations.

toto974's picture
@Workingclasshero

@Workingclasshero

I don not know if there isn't enough food in Africa. I am under the impression that African could sustain all of its inhabitants, considering the wealth that this continent has.

Anyway, when did i say anything he is accusing me of?

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@Talyyn

@Talyyn

"Anyway, when did I say anything he is accusing me of?"

I don't think you did say anything remotely like that :) I thought that you had asked him a reasonable question.

toto974's picture
@Talyyn

@Talyyn

So he is just being dishonest lol. I am dubious about his claims that love is an intrinsic part of reality.

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@Talyyn

@Talyyn

I think he's just saying it to tie in with the God is love crap. Is hate an intrinsic part of reality too? Plenty of that about these days.

toto974's picture
@Workingclasshero

@Workingclasshero

I do think the same. Since he knows he can not talk about the traditional vision of God, without being trashed, he is muddying the waters.

The only think he is right is that love and hate are an intrinsic part of the human psyche.

Sky Pilot's picture
Talyyn,

Talyyn,

I am under the impression that African could sustain all of its inhabitants, considering the wealth that this continent has.

The problem is that much of the good farmland is now owned by foreign countries. The food produced on that land is exported. https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6042/6278366654_a545084639_b.jpg

This is a common practice around the world = https://www.businessinsider.com/transnational-land-deals-india-china-2012-5

toto974's picture
@Diotrephes

@Diotrephes

So storm all the multinationals and the attached governments? I read a long time that the food that our fellow Africans eat are not always what their grow on their own soils, but i should check it.

Sky Pilot's picture
Talyyn,

delete

Tin-Man's picture
@Rat Spit

@Rat Spit

The Beatles? Hell yeah I like The Beatles! "Penny Lane" is my favorite. "Eleanor Rigby" is a close second. Well, actually, "Yellow Submarine" would probably be a good close second. Wait.... Would that mean "Eleanor Rigby" and "Yellow Submarine" would be tied for second place, or third place?... *scratching head*.... Oh, just so you know, "Hey Jude" isn't even in the running. Can't stand that song. Oh, damn! Almost forgot about "Hello Goodbye"! That's also a close second! Crap, now I'm really confused about for which which place those songs would be tied. And I would add "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" to the mix, but I prefer the George Harrison solo version of that one. Hey, man, all you need is love. Ain't it wonderful?

rat spit's picture
Precisely!!! All you need is

Precisely!!! All you need is love. There’s nothing you can do that can’t be done.

Here’s one of my favs. “Across The Universe” https://youtu.be/90M60PzmxEE

Now, regarding the ontology of my premise, let’s look a little closer at molecules.

Now, on what basis are scientists able to claim and hypothesize that certain molecular structures are detectable to the nose as “scents”. In other words, what makes a molecule “smelly”.

Of course, there would be no smell without a nose and a brain - but, so too, there would be no smell without the molecule. This leads to the fallen tree in the forest dilemma - in a way.

But smells bring up something particular about the atom - not necessarily the “waves” it gives off - which isn’t to say that “scent” is not also a vibrational energy. More to the point, scent is a property of molecular structure. And, IMO, science does not know why.

Love. What is that? Some say, “I love lamp”. But I say it is a property of the universe - be that on a molecular or space-time kind of field level - which, if we are to be accurate; is a distinction noted by a faculty in the heart.

Finally, as a worshipper of the all powerful OverLord, I will pray that loving thoughts invade your Atheist minds; that your hearts open a little to the love that surrounds you - and that you find peace within the loving arms of our Lord and Saviour Krishna.

Adieu

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ TM

@ TM

Add to your list (eleanor Rigby is my all time fav) Norwegian Wood, Yesterday, Imagine, Help, All of "Heartclub Band" and 'hey Jude" is a great song you philistine...

Tin-Man's picture
@Old Man

@Old Man

Oh, wow! How could I have forgotten about "Norwegian Wood"??? That would be a tie for first place on my list.... *sudden worried look*... Oh, dear... That really screws up the rank placings now. This is getting confusing... Dammit... *sulking*... Well, at least "Hey Jude" isn't a factor. Sorry, but that song annoys the piss out of me.

@Rat Spit

Hey, Ratty! Question for ya: If a bear farts in the woods and there is nobody around to smell it, does it still have an odor? (Assuming, of course, the bear left immediately after emitting said fart.)

David Killens's picture
I was there, man. I lived in

I was there, man. I lived in Northern France from 1960 to 1964 and spent many nights listening to the true first rock radio station, Radio Luxembourg. I even bought a Polydor 45 done by Tony Sheridan, with the Beatles providing cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KNedjsgnwY

I consider George Harrison the greatest recording lead guitar of all time. His style was not the flashy "look at me' stand in front of the crowd and do 20 minute solos, but instead his notes built, interleaved, and and gave substance to any song. His guitar never dominated any song, it tied the song together.

Any mention of the Beatles, and especially their seminal album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" has to include the great Beach Boys genius Brian Wilson. His "Pet Sounds" album was the truly multi-faceted multi-track work that basically forced the Beatles to up their game and took rock from simple songs to sophisticated works of art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU

I was 18 when Woodstock went down, I lived ( and somehow survived) that era in music.

rat spit's picture
Heroin. “Once you let her

Heroin. “Once you let her under your skin, then you begin to make it better”. “Hey Jude” is about heroin. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Heroin can be a lovely addiction if kept under strict levels of moderation.

Sheldon's picture
rat spit "Heroin. “Once you

rat spit "Heroin. “Once you let her under your skin, then you begin to make it better”. “Hey Jude” is about heroin. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Heroin can be a lovely addiction if kept under strict levels of moderation."

Urban myth...according to McCartney anyway, and he wrote it, and has been fairly candid about lyrical references to drug use in other songs he and Lennon wrote.

https://www.shmoop.com/hey-jude/meaning.html

No recreational us of heroin can be kept in moderation, only an imbecile would think so, and the effects of it's addiction are far from "lovely".

I'm also not sure that the moderators will be too happy with you promoting heroin use, even if it is another of your juvenile jokes.

Nyarlathotep's picture
My favorite part is how you

@rat spit

My favorite part is how much you managed to evolve the word love:

  • love
  • Love
  • universal Love
  • Universal Love

in one short opening post.

Grinseed's picture
I prefer the Rolling Stones.

I prefer the Rolling Stones.

Forget lonely lonely depressing Eleanor Rigby and overcast rainy Penny Lane.

Get your Ya-Yas out!! Get some Sticky Fingers and share Sympathy for the Devil!!

...oh are the kids in bed yet?

Cognostic's picture
Universal love my ass!

Universal love my ass! More utter frigging nonsense. Prove something called "Universal love exists." If not..... Stop the nonsense.

Account Inactive's picture
I used to love Lambs Navy Rum

I used to love Lambs Navy Rum, until one day I ate some greasy chips after consuming it which resulted in rummy chip vomit. I no longer love Lambs navy rum.... Love comes and goes. Therefore your argument is invalid rat spit.

In Spirit's picture
Hi rat

Hi rat

Overlord, Buddhism, Jesus, Krishna....you really get around. Is your Overlord a word you use to contain all religious beliefs?
Does your Universal Love come from a common thread with your religious mixtures?
Still not sure how you define Universal Love. Is it a two way street or just you loving universally?

Love the Beatles by the way but the Peace and Love Movement was a 60's thing not necessarily to be attributed solely to the Beatles.

In Spirit's picture
Sheldon

Sheldon

Thanks for pointing that out. I was trying to do the same thing but my post wasn't going through.

Agreed. Nothing good can come from heroin. I have seen too many friends lose their lives through overdose and suicide. I have seen them shoot it in their veins right before my eyes and ruin their lives. I have seen one mug our friend with a gun. In short, I have seen it's ugly face too many times.

Moderation? Can't happen. Should not be promoted under any circumstances.

Sapporo's picture
The thread topic reminds me

The thread topic reminds me of a reply attributed to Gandhi (although he may not have actually said it) to the question “What do you think of Western civilization?”:

“I think it would be a good idea.”

Cognostic's picture
Another utterly inane topic

Another utterly inane topic brought to us by Rat Spit. Demonstrate anything called universal love. The idea itself is moronic. Especially moronic without being adequately defined.

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