Allah is ENERGY

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Randomhero1982's picture
No, stop evading.

No, stop evading.

Give YOUR description and/or definition.

I'm not asking for a logical arguement.

Matheist's picture
Allah is the Light of

Allah is the Light of Everything. (Quran 24:35)

Everything is the Light. ~ Tesla

That is the description.

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Randomhero1982's picture
Nope, try again!

Nope, try again!

Describe/define Allah.

Come on, even oxford dictionaries can provide a sentence... I'm sure you can do better.

Matheist's picture
I'm sure you can do better.

I'm sure you can do better.

Argumentum ad lapidem (argument with a stone) is a logical fallacy that consists in dismissing a statement as absurd without giving proof of its absurdity.

Randomhero1982's picture
Here we go again,

Here we go again,

Definie or describe your God, Allah.

I'm not asking for logical argument, nor you re-labelling a natural phenomena.

This really isn't difficult.

Any pier review to support this?
Should be easy to provide this as energy is well known, tested and documented in science via pier review....

Come on, one paper.

Matheist's picture
Another bigotry issue. You

Another bigotry issue. You should be a Theist.

Here is your only objection:

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Your only argument it is wrong to pronounce an "orange" as "narandžasta (Bosnian)"

IT MUST BE PRONOUNCED AS ORANGE ONLY!

Bigotry issue and there is no merit in it.

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My argument:

1. Energy exists.

2. Everything is Energy.

3. Ancient people call that Energy as Light

4. I call that Energy as Allah.

5. These people call Energy as:

Bangla: শক্তি
Bulgarian: Енергия
Chinese Simplified: 能源
Chinese Traditional: 能源
Cantonese (Traditional): 能源
Fijian: Kaukauwa
Filipino: Enerhiya
Greek: Ενέργεια
Hebrew: אנרגיה
Hindi: ऊर्जा
Hmong Daw: Zog
Icelandic: Orku
Japanese: エネルギー
Kiswahili: Nishati
Klingon: HoS
Klingon (pIqaD): 
Korean: 에너지
Malagasy: Hery
Malay: Tenaga
Persian: انرژی
Russian: Энергия
Samoan: Malosi
Serbian (Cyrillic): Енергија
Tahitian: Puai
Tamil: ஆற்றல்
Telugu: శక్తి
Thai: พลังงาน
Tongan: Ivi
Ukrainian: Енергія
Urdu: توانائی
Vietnamese: Năng lượng
Welsh: Ynni

Why is it wrong to pronounce an "orange" (~ Energy) as "narandžasta (~ Allah)"?

Randomhero1982's picture
Hey, its joy my fault you are

Hey, its joy my fault you are irretrievably stupid.

So let's go over this...

You cannot accurately define simple words.
You cannot describe/define Allah.
You have no idea about physics.
You cannot construct a sensible logical arguement.
You cannot evidence your claims.
And you have not a single pier review resource.

Well I think we should file your entire thread under 'utter bollocks'

And by the way, everything is not energy,
'Everything' are in actuality, fields.
They can carry energy.

Energy is a scaler.
Also define what energy, velocity? Temperature?

Now you may proceed with your bullshit.

Matheist's picture
Why is it wrong to pronounce

Why is it wrong to pronounce an "orange" (~ Energy) as "narandžasta (~ Allah)"?

Still no answer and proving, you are Religious People.

Sheldon's picture
" I call that Energy as Allah

" I call that Energy as Allah."

Those words have existing definitions that are not remotely compatible. It's like you deciding to call the moon President of the universe, then pointing at the moon and insisting there is a president of the universe.

It's a mronically vapid piece of utterly pointless semantics.

You're banned now so it doesn't really matter, but you'd have to hope for your sake that it was nonsense you created purely to troll. Otherwise wed have to infer that you are dumber than a bucket of hair.

Sheldon's picture
"Argumentum ad lapidem

"Argumentum ad lapidem (argument with a stone) is a logical fallacy that consists in dismissing a statement as absurd without giving proof of its absurdity."

Doesn't apply, as your argument's absurdity is manifest, it has no merits to address. You can claim your brain is a banana, and this demonstrably absurd, thus there is no need to refute it, nor is it Argumentum ad lapidem to dismiss it as absurd.

I'd say you can do better, but nothing you've posted thus far suggest this to be the case.

Matheist's picture
Allah is Energy in Sufi

Allah is Energy in Sufi Metaphysics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi_metaphysics

1 (Allah/Energy) + 0 (You/transformation of Energy) = 1 (manifestation of Allah/Energy)

WAHDAT AL-WUJUD (UNITY OF EXISTENCE)
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The only journey is one within.

Ibrahim: I have turned my face to Him/Energy Who manifested the heavens and earth into being, a pure natural believer. I am not one of the mushrikun/deluded/insane.´ (Quran 6:79)

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Matheist - 1 (Allah/Energy) +

Matheist - 1 (Allah/Energy) + 0 (You/transformation of Energy) = 1 (manifestation of Allah/Energy)

The adding of two values with different units is madness.

Matheist's picture
There is no zero, BUT it is

There is no zero, BUT it is best to describe the idea to basic people.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Matheist - ...BUT it is best

Matheist - ...BUT it is best to describe the idea to basic people.

If your idea requires you to engage in mathematical non-sense to best describe the idea; I suggest you get a new idea.

Matheist's picture
The only nonsense is:

The only nonsense is:

1 + 1
1 + 1 + 1
1 + 1 + 1 + 1
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 ......

when everything is "1"

that is delusional.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Matheist - There is no zero..

Matheist - There is no zero...

V.S.

Matheist - ...0 (You/transformation of Energy)...

If your idea requires you to contradict yourself, again I suggest getting a new idea.

Matheist's picture
the word ... transformation

the word ... transformation of "ENERGY"

I suggest comprehension skills.

Sheldon's picture
I suggest calamine lotion to

I suggest calamine lotion to ease the stinging from the spanking Nyarlathotep just gave you, twice.

Nyarlathotep's picture
[From a site moderator:

[From a site moderator: Matheist, this post contains a large amount of material from another cite. This material will be removed (by using the edit feature) from that post by either you or I. If I have to do it, you won't like the outcome. This is not up for debate. You have exactly one chance to correct this situation; don't waste it.]

Matheist's picture
Do whatever you like. It is

Do whatever you like. Your issue is not relevant to the "argument" and not my concern.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Matheist has left the

Matheist has left the building.

Randomhero1982's picture
Well, I tried lol

Well, I tried lol

Sheldon's picture
I will never tire of saying

I will never tire of saying this... thank you.

Tin-Man's picture
Thank you, Nyar!

Thank you, Nyar!

Randomhero1982's picture
Because it is simply word

Because it is simply word play, it gives no credence to a God hypothesis.

We already have a perfectly good word for 'energy' and that is energy.

And as all leading physicists will tell you, metaphysics must follow the physics!

You name one pier review paper citing Allah as energy and you will have a point.

Furthermore, even if one was to concede your point it doesnt get around the fact that 'everything' in not energy and is actually fields.

This is very basic, so if you don't get that then you are not educated enough to discuss the topic.

Matheist's picture
Language always develops and

Language always develops and change over time. Even now:

Bangla: শক্তি
Bulgarian: Енергия
Chinese Simplified: 能源
Chinese Traditional: 能源
Cantonese (Traditional): 能源
Fijian: Kaukauwa
Filipino: Enerhiya
Greek: Ενέργεια
Hebrew: אנרגיה
Hindi: ऊर्जा
Hmong Daw: Zog
Icelandic: Orku
Japanese: エネルギー
Kiswahili: Nishati
Klingon: HoS
Klingon (pIqaD): 
Korean: 에너지
Malagasy: Hery
Malay: Tenaga
Persian: انرژی
Russian: Энергия
Samoan: Malosi
Serbian (Cyrillic): Енергија
Tahitian: Puai
Tamil: ஆற்றல்
Telugu: శక్తి
Thai: พลังงาน
Tongan: Ivi
Ukrainian: Енергія
Urdu: توانائی
Vietnamese: Năng lượng
Welsh: Ynni

What are you going to do with them? lol

This is very basic, so if you don't get that then you are not educated enough to discuss the topic.

Randomhero1982's picture
Woopy doo, that has no

Woopy doo, that has no bearing on your claim... in fact it boarders on an appeal to popularity.

In your entire arguement, what ancients call energy is completely unnecessary.

1. Energy exists - is correct

2. Energy is everything - is fundermentally wrong and you've not addressed this.

3. Ancients called energy light - there is no need for this premise, you can skip to 4.

4. I call this energy Allah - which is simply trying to slide in an almost God of the gaps sort of argument.

Again it's not necessary! We have a word for it, and that is energy.

Even then, it is a descriptor for actual phenomena... I.e. velocity, temperature.

Sorry, but I think you need to really rethink this horse shit.

Matheist's picture
argument by repetition, and
Randomhero1982's picture
It would be if you had an

It would be if you had an arguement lol

That's one of the worst logical arguments I've seen postulated on here.

We don't need to discuss any other points until you've resolved the issues in your arguement.

I.e.

2 - is wrong
3 - is an appeal to population and unrequited
4 - is simply your changing of a word to suit a narrative.

Matheist's picture
Your issue already SOLVED:

Your issue already SOLVED:

1. He made all gods same god (Quran 38:5)
2. My argument: "orange" (~ Energy) AND "narandžasta" (~ Allah) are THE SAME
3. Your argument: "orange" (~ Energy) AND "narandžasta" (~ Allah) are NOT THE SAME

The dogma of ["orange" (~ Energy) AND "narandžasta" (~ Allah) are NOT THE SAME]

The problem with dogma:

1. delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality (nature) or rational argument (logic), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

2. Insanity. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature) from reality (nature).

Reality: "orange" AND "narandžasta" are THE SAME

Fantasy: "orange" AND "narandžasta" are NOT THE SAME

Which of you is mad/BRAINWASHED? (Quran 68:6)

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