On isolating, solitude and loneliness

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Old man shouts at clouds's picture
Dudes we call join up and

Dudes we call join up and play free online Poker or all sorts of games if you want.....we can all join Steam and play any amount of games and instructional games there...I use Train Simulator great fun driving Steam Locos! Lots of multiplayer opps all over the place just using our PCs and laptops.

David Killens's picture
@ Old man

@ Old man

To add to that, a bunch of people can all join one Discord server and have everyone on the same chat channel. That is how I do my team sim racing. Everyone is on the same channel and we can talk to each other.

Whitefire13's picture
Personally, I love my quiet

Personally, I love my quiet time...I keep busy (outside of my regular busy) with good old puzzles. Cup of coffee, listening to a podcast, pencil and crazy-hard puzzles ahhhh. My heaven.

This forum is about as “social” as I get, unless my best friend is dragging me out :) But with this social distancing :) I haven’t had to humor her for awhile!

Cognostic's picture
Classes began on Wed. It's

Classes began on Wed. It's now Saturday and I am coughing. I don't feel sick but this is obviously a phlegm buildup in my lungs. I am hoping it is the horrible dusty air causing the cough and the fact that I spent the last 3 days talking, and not the virus. It's almost 12PM on Sat. and I have spent the entire day sleeping. My only waking hours were from 2 to 5 pm. I guess I needed the sleep.

dogalmighty's picture
Poop...

Poop...

Does that not mean another 3 weeks of isolation?

Fucknuts.

I will send you some yellow sticks of goodness.

Whitefire13's picture
Any testing there before

Any testing there before returning people back to work/school?

Cognostic's picture
No Testing. I actually

No Testing. I actually slept 7PM Friday through Sunday. It's Monday now. 4AM, I'm not coughing but I sure slept a whole lot of hours. I was not awake for any longer than two or three hours per day, the entire weekend. Perhaps I just needed to catch up on some sleep.

dogalmighty's picture
@sirchimpsalot

@sirchimpsalot

Stop the porn, and your sleep wake hours will start to resemble a normal circadian rhythm. :D

Whitefire13's picture
...or...you are now immune!

...or...you are now immune!

—-go out and spread some more ——

LogicFTW's picture
@Thread

@Thread
In this strange, weird new world, I have... the opposite problem others in this thread have. Instead of loneliness, I am dealing with a lack of space and privacy, when I used to have as much space and privacy as I want.

Here follows my rant: feel free to skip.

My wife and I have become the primary caregiver three of our parents. I love my family, and I am able and willing to help take care of them in these tough times. But we have never all lived together before.

And I know we are among the fortunate ones, both my job and my wife fairly easily moved to work-from-home, we still get a steady paycheck.

The previously easy to maintain "truce" on religion and politics is falling apart now that we are on top of each other 24/7. It was easy to keep my mouth shut for the once weekly dinners, even if the conversation strayed into more sensitive subjects, both my wife and I could take the high road and simply change the subject, or even on occasion let them do their spiel, thank them for their insight, then it was time for them to head home.

I was able to at first make a deal with our parents to stay in strict quarantine, and told them what they wanted to hear on the religious subjects in effort to keep the peace. Now increasingly all 3 have decided, (and one of them was never very religious,) that they have special protection from "god" or their genes or their "constitution" (It varies from day to day,) they feel my strict quarantine efforts are overbearing and too restrictive. And naturally parents chafe that the thought of having to accept rules of their kids, especially if they disagree with the rule.

They know I wont kick them out, they are family and these are special times, so increasingly it has been a pitched battle to keep these medically vulnerable (one of them VERY vulnerable,) to stick to quarantine. When the inevitable argument comes, (and in these stressful times, everyone is much quicker to anger,) the arguments inevitably boil down to they feel they have little to fear from the virus, "it is for the sinners!" and my wife and I are being "paranoid."

Worse still since my wife and I are still working, and we do not have kids, they want us to support all their friends and other family members that have lost their jobs. We help where we can, but we simply cannot afford to help everyone. And any donation dollars are much better spent helping food banks then sending money to family members and friends so they can buy groceries.

Both our jobs are taking up to 60+ hours a week now, while our parents languish around the house bored out of their minds and restless. They mostly just talk about the virus.

One of our parents is fairly disabled and requires a lot of extra care. I have gone from having dozens of hours a week to myself, to working 60+ hour weeks, with the rest of the waking hours spent taking care of the household. Im exhausted, so is my wife, and they are bored and restless, and want to rationalize why they can go out. All 3 have teamed up against my wife and myself at times.

Last night I finally lost my cool, exhaustion and tons of stress can do that to even the most patient person. I slipped, told them their arguments were invalid because they were based on fantasy instead of reality. There is no god that is going to magically protect them and only them from this very contagious and deadly virus.

Now we are not on speaking terms, and I am now taking the rare break to.. vent here.

Thanks if you read this rant. Input, advice etc is always welcome.

I know just about everyone has it far worse then me. But, the loss of free time and privacy is actually fairly profound for me, an introvert that likes control, (I do not control my wife, impossible to do! but I do trust her in any and all situations.)

boomer47's picture
@LogicFTW

@LogicFTW

Bloody hell mate. You have the patience of a saint .(if you'll forgive the expression)

Both of my parents are dead and both died in care. Mum lived with my sister for 17 years! At first, I used to have mum over here for weekends, to give my sister a break. She drove me nuts! My house is split level, with short stairs. Told her to tell me if she wanted to go downstairs to prevent her falling. She ignored that. Mainly, she was very demanding.---And you have three of them!

Today, Cranky is the only geriatric in this house, and I find it hard enough living with him. .

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Logic

@ Logic

Bloody hell mate...3 of them? I just have the wife and I am manfully avoiding applying spousal strangulation and the subsequent incarceration....and you have THREE extra critics?

We went out together yesterday for our 'flu jabs, such fun, and some birdseed....oh and some petrol (gasoline) as it is now at a mere 83c a litre. The lowest price in 15 years.

Fortunately we are on the Seniors Pension and I have some Super(not much after the criminal gamblers in the stock market had their fun) plus a pension from the UK....I should have one from the US but the last financial collapse saw that evaporate into various bankers back pockets, court case still pending after all these years.

We are lucky and are on Woolworths (supermarket, no relation to the American chain of the same name) priority list so our groceries are delivered. So only greengrocery, meat and prescriptions do I timidly venture forth for, wearing my disposable gloves and a brave smile.

Spending my time learning Scots Gaelic and restoring toys from the 50's and sixties, oh and playing inordinate amounts of poker online.

I would not swap with you for anything. Good luck mate. I shall certainly character ref you at the trial.....

Whitefire13's picture
@Logic...if they are still

@Logic...if they are still alive and breathing you are doing well my man...you are doing well...

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Old man shouts at clouds's picture
Update!

Update!

I have now won 230 million at 5 card stud.....have qualified to drive 3 types of British Steam Engine, two Diesel and one Electric.

On my 5th restoration this week of 1950's die cast cars, have learnt 750 words in Gaelic and wrestled my brain into understanding why the singular would be car, but the the plural is càraichean.

Urge to spiflicate, murderate or merely silence SWMBO has moderated to a dull "yes dear". Have picked up a nasty eye infection....bugger, but had 20 bottles of wine delivered so hey ho!

Weather is grand, cool mornings and in the 30's every day. So my bi sin die perambulation of the streets can continue in comfort, even sans dog.

I am also talking a lot with African christian sites...nutso lot, steeped in incorrect evangelistic jargon and so little common sense. Had a short, but violent disagreement with a missionary lol....I am destined for the deepest pits of hell....

So that's my lock down diary! How about you Cranky,Whitefire and all the others? Keeping sane?

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@Old Man Re: Lockdown

@Old Man Re: Lockdown

The wife and I are not able to go out to eat at a nice restaurant on weekends, and I do odd-n-ends jobs helping my neighbor with his construction business whenever he needs me during the week................. *light sigh*.................... Yyyyep.......... *using index fingers to tap out irregular rhythm on edge of table*.................. *bobbing head while looking randomly about room*...................... Soooooo, uh, yeah, uh, other than that, my daily routine is pretty much the same as it has always been. No significant changes. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I'll just allow others to decide for themselves... *chuckle*....

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@Old man

@Old man

Pretty impressive. Right now it's 1046 Good Friday here. .

Up since 0600, which was a mistake . Have already read the various versions of HuffPost I like, taken Major for a walk, and spent about an hour on a new painting. I'm going through fauvist phase.

Now I can't decide on whether to watch some more of "Designated Survivor", bake some ANZAC biscuits, wash the jellybean or read some Bart Ehrman. I think I might have a nap instead.---Actually did some house work yesterday. Don't want to get carried away, so I won't do any more for a few weeks..

Have spent over $350 on Ebay over the last few days.---some blank canvasses, an art deco (repro) nude lady lamp , some mens hair clippers. It's OK ,I have a beanie if I stuff up my hair cut. I really like having things delivered, like shiny new things and love opening packages. .

I'm very lucky that I enjoy my own company. The only thing I really dislike about this isolation is that I'm NOT ALLOWED to go out as I usually would, not that I would necessarily go out a lot more often. .

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
Cranky and TM

Cranky and TM

A series on HBO (if you can get it, or Fetch) that is just outstanding is Gentleman Jack. Who isn't a man, gentle or a Jack. Set in early Victorian Britain and based on the diaries of Anna Lister. It is now our compulsive lunchtime viewing. Be careful TM I can see this being a game changer for yr Missus....I can see her in the garb already....

Another hilarious British series is Ghost House (TM you would really enjoy this) it is available on a few platforms I think. From the crew that gave the world "Horrible Histories" also compulsive viewing (but a few years old now)

Let me know what you think.

Yes Cranky...did you get your $750 from that nice Mr Morrison? I spent mine on wine....delivered yesterday si hsh ddffie in aklane slpitch

It's always a temptation to spend on ebay etc when confined. Hair clippers...bought my latest a couple of years ago...brilliant. Worth going for the best you can get though, the cheapies just fall apart . I have shaved my head completely now causing shrieks of alarm from my agent who apparently has never heard of hairpieces....I used to get my hair done by the on set MUA people...so I am used to having differents styles from Victorian bob, Short back and Sides for War movies ,and shaved for the prison series....the kids never knew what style I would have next and made a game of it when young. Really pissed them off when teenagers and I appeared (for a 3 day shoot) after work, in a rainbow Mohican, piercings, chains and make up...all of which they had been expressly forbidden in the preceding months....LOL. Oh we laughed...as you can imagine.

Whitefire13's picture
Busy with puzzles, cooking (I

Busy with puzzles, cooking (I love it), teaching ...daily stuff. Had one kids B,day (jokingly gave him a roll of TP with a bow on top) ... waiting for snow to melt - I get spring fever but have to wait till after May long weekend to plant any thing.

Thinking of installing new flooring ... maybe next month (me and the boys)...

Oh, and my oldest is getting a new electric guitar s/b in next week. He can play some song, I can’t remember which that requires 2 guitarists by himself (he said Jimmy could do 4?!!! I don’t know)

David Killens's picture
I am retired and a homebody,

I am retired and a homebody, so most of my daily routine is not affected. But when I go out, I miss being able to talk to people. I am gregarious, I like to talk to people.

I am definitely making sure the movie "War of the Roses" will not be shown on my TV. But I managed to gather some fine Japanese films. I have already watched "The Seven Samurai" many times, so I will pass on that one. But I have Yojimbo, Rashomon, Sanjuro, and The Hidden Fortress saved on my PVR and ready to be viewed soon. I love that genre, basically Shakespearean drama in a feudal Japan setting.

At least my apartment is getting a very thorough spring cleaning.

boomer47's picture
@Old Man

@Old Man

"Yes Cranky...did you get your $750 from that nice Mr Morrison"

WOT?

Mate I retired 20 years ago . Can't see how I'd be entitled. Besides, I'm not in need. After all, it's not that nice Mr Morrison's own money. The money with which he is being so generous belongs to we the people.

HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE!: I just checked my bank account. $750 has been credited to my account. That goes straight into into my 'Money Saver Account" and will go towards the new decking. -----the builder starts on 20 April, so I guess that money is going where it's intended to go. The guy is a one man operation, so no probs with social distancing.

Over 20 years ago . A friend's 16 year old daughter played bass in a band. She wore Doc Martins, a pair of torn fishnet stockings, a white tutu and a skimpy top. . As it turned out, her school did not have a dress code for hair. So, enter a vivid pink and green Mohawk. Her mum said nothing .She just took lots of photos. Daughter is now nearly 40 with two of her own. I'm sure granny will delight in showing the grand kids the photos of their mum when---

-----At school the principal tried to get her to change her hair. She was assertive, just like her mum. She politely told the principal that she would of course honour any dress code for hair the school introduced. But until that time, she would wear her hair however she liked .She got away with that because it was a public school.

My clippers are "Wahl". Same brand as the beard trimmer I bought 20 years ago

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ David and Cranky &

@ David and Cranky & Whitefire

"Oh, and my oldest is getting a new electric guitar s/b in next week. He can play some song, I can’t remember which that requires 2 guitarists by himself" you will need earplugs and a nice thick piece of leather for when you don't wear them...the leather goes between your teeth....
I remember myself as a young teen learning...and the agony it must have cost my parents. Especially the bagpipes....
@ David...ah the Maitre d'eovre Kurosawa sama.....I love theose films,all in my collection and on the odd occasion that SMBO allows me unfttered control of the big screen they are my goto, well along with several others. He had a prodigious output.

@ Cranky

Well at least your $750 is going to a tradie! Apparently we get a repeat dose in July....but by the way prices are going that wont by a cabbage and a piece of carrot....

And horrific disastrous news! We just watched the last of Gentleman Jack! ARRRRRRGH...there had better be a series 2 or there will be stern letters written to the management. Seriously good programming.

boomer47's picture
@ Old Man

@ Old Man

Come to think of it. I've noticed the price of some fruit and veg has already gone up more than I would normally expect. ONE problem is a shortage of pickers.---- much of the work is usually done by back packers. BUT, due to the virus, hostels , caravan parks and hotels have closed, so no beds.

Have just acquired the full season of Gentleman Jack. A costume drama? I was hoping for say a series about Jack the Ripper*** or a new Torchwood series. I'll watch a shortly.

**In my opinion it's as likely as not that Jack the ripper never existed, I think he was probably invented by a newspaper reporter.

Whitefire13's picture
OMS - he’s actually good!!!

OMS - he’s actually good!!! And this isn’t “parental pride” ;) The guitar is an upgrade for his efforts (surprise!) and he is excited. His current guitar can be played with “headphones” and there’s volume control BUT I enjoy listening to him practice so he only uses them if I’ve gone to bed or am taking a nap.
My youngest wanted drums. This was a “no”. No no no! No no no no no no no.... he can “do” this when he gets his own place!!!!! Trust me it’s a well placed no, knowing my youngest....

boomer47's picture
@White

@White

"This was a “no”. No no no! No no no no no no no.... he can “do” this when he gets his own place!!!!! Trust me it’s a well placed no, knowing my youngest...."

Very considerate of you. My neighbours to the rear built their son a free standing 'granny flat,' For Xmas which soon followed, he got a drum kit.The little bastard played it constantly. It was then I formed the distinct impression that bass sounds travel close to the ground and can travel some distance. (my upper register is shot, so I tend not to notice high pitched sounds)

Mercifully he grew up, knocked up some girl and got married. The olds sold up. There is now a lovely, quiet young Muslim couple living there .

Whitefire13's picture
@Cranky...

@Cranky...
I have no close neighbours so it’s my sanity I’m protecting and my pocketbook. He paints (recently invested in more
Canvas/paints for him) - when I got him a keyboard for Xmas (same interest level as his new drum fetish) he touched it for about one week. Didn’t have the patience, love or talent to pursue it further. If he really loves the sound of the “beat” he can set his fuckin keyboard to percussion

boomer47's picture
@White

@White

Found a good supplier of canvas on Ebay. Still cheaper than local suppliers delivered. Quality it is OK. Eg 30x40cm, my basic size canvas ; 5 for $AU 27 ( all the canvas come in lots of 5)

What medium? I paint in acrylic because it's cheaper and dries faster than oil. Have not been able to find anyone cheaper than my local supplier on Ebay.

I suspect you might find things a bit cheaper on Ebay US,

A word about Ebay in case you are unfamiliar: I've been buying stuff on Ebay for over 3 years, and have made over 100 purchases. Usually small items no more than $20. But also bought my flat screen TV, a laptop and video camera. Have needed to return things four times. Each time Ebay took my part and I received a full refund. Perhaps best not to buy a TV unless there's a HUGE saving . Warrantee claims can be a pain.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch
Whitefire13's picture
Thanks for sharing this

Thanks for sharing this
Link - going to copy it to the oldest ...and youngest - he has the “sticks” if he’s a drummer he can drum on anything ;)

David Killens's picture
Whitefire, your young man may

Whitefire, your young man may appreciate this YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/iVideosongs/videos

Here is just one example, Alex breaks down how he plays Spirit of Radio. I mean, he REALLY breaks it down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyjJeTpHScw

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@David K. Re: Vid link

@David K. Re: Vid link

Thanks. One of my favorite groups, and that is one of my favorite songs from them.

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