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Upon more googling I came across this quote,
"Cardinal Peter Seiichi Shirayanagi, President of the Japanese Committee of the World Conference of Religions of Peace (Former Archbishop of Tokyo) has said “The events of Akita are no longer to be taken seriously. We think they do not now have a great significance for the Church or Japanese society.”
Which is kind of, you know , suspicious as fuck. Apparently the nun was also kicked out of her convent for bein "too pious" and there's very little at that convent now to commemorate this supposed miracle. Akso. Suspicious as fuck
I open myself to public flogging.
You might also be interested to know I have an appointment in january with an actual psychiatrist, full doctor.
Hey guys
It's a hard day.
I was doing really good for like 3 days and controlling myself and not googling. I went to my shrink, i was calm. Then today I got a sudden bad spike and my trigger is still hardcore on akita again. Like I totally get that weeping statues an easily be faked and there's no proof that the fluids tested actually came from the statue at all. But I'm sudden caught on how her hearing could have healed since googling seems to say that regaining hearing loss is pretty much impossible. I mean she was a sickly woman her whole life and had lots of surgeries and treatments, so who knows what happened I guess. I had come to the conclusion that her stigmata and the statues stigmata were all faked or straight up lies, but I'm caught up wondering how they could get the whole convent to go along with cooperating these stories
I just need to talk is all, get the fear out rather than in
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Her hearing was described as coming and going, before the incident.
I know that it regained once after she got there, lost it agsin, and then gained it again. I don't know what her story was before
There are many different types of hearing loss.
A more common hearing loss is when in one or both ears the ability to hear comes and goes. You can have good days and bad days, just like you can with arthritis or alzheimer's etc.
Additionally the placebo effect as well as tapping into the "spiritual" side of people can be very powerful. The same way a girl under 100 pounds can lift 2x 3x her body weight to save someone important to her in emergency, can we when inspired or in emergency suddenly temporarily be unburdened by our normal disabilities, especially in a case where it is already known that the condition can vary in intensity on a given day.
Until you see evidence of something actually remarkable, like spontaneous limb regrowth, (something that could NEVER occur naturally) any supposed "miracles" you read about are not even really worth dwelling upon.
I could google a dozen different stories of people lifting cars off of trapped family members/friends, where they could not even bench 100 pounds in the gym once. And they come from a dozen different religions if they attributed their miraculous feat to their "god" idea if at all.
You know I think that's one of the things that had me so worked up about Lourdes. The cases and healings /are/ press red as though they are on the same realm as regrowing a limb or healing a totally severed spinal cord. MS, nerve damage, bone regrowt in an anatomically correct way, TB, all these things are talked about as being impossible to heal from to the extent that Lourdes claims. And i, as a layperson, am not at liberty to research every medical issue presented. So often when someone says "I'll believe it when a leg regrows" my knee jerk reaction is, but isn't this just as amazing and unheard of?
What I'm learning now though is that many cases of sppntaneous remission happen in a variety of issues. One article I read stated that cases of spontaneous remission are terribly under repprted, as few as 10% in terms of studies and articles
That is good Mikhael; but I'd like to point out that the severed limb scenario has other aspect as well: simple diagnosis. We don't need specialized medical training, x-rays, or blood tests to differentiate between a severed limb and an un-severed limb.
It is perhaps one of the few conditions we can be pretty sure existed before the magical ceremony and was repaired after the magical ceremony. Yet this never happens; the faith healers never even attempt this feat.
Why? Because they also know it is a scam.
Recurrent Sensoineural Hearing Loss.
Its a common enough affliction to have its own name. Look it up...I post a link now but Im on a bouncing bus. In short hearing comes and sometimes goes and vice versa and its cause is neural. All natural. No miracles. Hardly evidence of good design.
What?
I SAID I SAW YOUR PIGNOSE WHEN I WAS TRAPPED IN TIN'S BUNKER..YEAH, TIN'S BUNKER! Squawk!!
Re: Grin - "I SAID I SAW YOUR PIGNOSE WHEN I WAS TRAPPED IN TIN'S BUNKER..YEAH, TIN'S BUNKER!"
I can neither confirm nor deny that statement.
Oh, by the way, Grin, I am missing one of my midget cowboy porn mags. Care to tell me where that might be, please?
@TIN: RE: "I am missing one of my midget cowboy porn mags."
I told Old man those Magazines were yours. He loaded them onto his trike and took them to the recycling center. He kept mumbling about a plan to get rich, then something about a new coat of paint for his trike.
As usual Cog is being careless with the truth....COG loaded them onto my trike and told me to deliver them to a very fetching female Bonobo. Of course I had picked up our liquor for the week...and the rest is history. A night in jail and all thanks to that chimp.
As it happens I am having my trike repainted with the AR logo prominently on the front. Nothing to do with that rare issue 64 of MCP that unaccountably was auctioned off recently.
*looks innocently at the heavens* "oh! look Cog..a banana in a pig mask! *points down the road, waits for Cog and Tin to be distracted, and runs in the general direction of away*
@Grin, Cog, Old Man
Damn... This is why I can't have nice things... *shaking head sadly*... It's okay, though, because at least you didn't find my vintage MCP #69: "Rough Riders of the Hershey Highway" Special Edition from 6/9/69. There is a great article in there on "Bare-back Bronco Breaking", along with a couple of exclusive interviews with John Wang and Clint Hardwood. Practically priceless.
So, Old Man, you can have that MCP #64. Besides, the article in there on "Back Door Bandits of Bumm County" seems rather fitting in this case. Enjoy your new paint job... *grin*...
@ Mikhael
Of all the handicaps to plague humankind, deafness is the least obvious.
Ever since Yeshua fixed up the deaf man with spit, people have feigned deafness for all sorts of reasons, usually to claim compensation money or avoiding compulsory military service.
I imagine shysters have on many occasions used 'miraculous restoration of lost hearing' as a ploy to part fools from money or to service a lie of some sort.
For your future reference it takes a trained audiologist and some elaborate audiometric testing to accurately determine a malingerer.