Wat age did you START the journy to atheism
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yea, he came back but neglected to answer any of the questions that he did not answer when he left.
I'm starting to be convinced that they were the reason he left lol
So I'm poking at him :P
Since the day i knew what is actually inside quran. I was in college back then. I read Quran since i was kid but in Arabic. After a friend asked me to join islamic cult, i started to read the interpetation of quran in my own language. I am glad i did :)
Ive not read either translations (after i found out the truth about mohammad i didnt care what was in it) are there really as much differences as implied in your post?
I came to the realization that I was an atheist while I was a Christian at age 33, four years ago. Its been a huge change since then. I only wish I would have known what I know now at the age of 20, when I committed to a radical devotion to Jesus Christ.
Becoming an atheist that late in life is a heck of an acomplishment. The older we get the harder to change.
It was a long journey for me. I finally came out as an atheist recently at the age of 45. I grew up in a moderate, working class, Catholic home in a small town in NY. I was always a questioner about matters concerning life and existence and, I was led to believe by the people who surrounded me that religion held the answers. So entrenched was my quest for truth that I attended a liberal Catholic seminary and earned a BA in philosophy and theology. The experience left me with more questions than answers because at least what I learned in college was intellectually honest. It did, however, enhance my sense of social justice as I studied liberation philosophy and theology which was on the forbidden fringe of Catholicism. That was important to my skepticism as I was forced to witness, first hand, all of the folly, duplicity and, corruption of the institutional church.
My first experience with true cognitive dissonance with my world view came when I was 15. My best friend's family had converted from being Lutheran to Pentecostal. You could imagine that I was quite shocked at the crap spewing from my friend's mother's mouth. I knew something was wrong when all these religions were clamoring about who was right and, who was wrong. Of course, learning about Gilga Mesh, Enuma Elish, biblical discrepancies, so on and so forth didn't do much to strengthen my faith in my seminary days either. Not attending church for the last 14 years just made religion seem all the more silly to me.
I thought I was alone. I didn't discover that there was atheist community until 2012 while searching Youtube and finding "The Atheist Experience". I simply never knew it was an option. I finally came out knowing that: 1) others view the world in a similar way 2) going through a rough patch in my life finally proved to me that god is inert. 3) Atheist have far superior arguments in matters of reason, history, theology, philosophy, logic and, science. I still feel isolated as everyone around me is a theist and dismisses me as crazy. Just have to take it a little at a time. Am I venting? Yes. I'm glad I found this place so I might actually be able to find like minded people
Welcome and glad you made the journey to find the truth. I'm in Texas, I watch "The Atheist Experience" also. Is there any particular episode that you consider a favorite? If so what episode #xxx?
There's no episode in particular as I only watch the show from time to time on Youtube. I'm very impressed with Matt Dillahunty's mastery of logic which he uses to form his arguments. I'm also impressed by the sense of community conveyed by the show. Matt and I have something in common in that we both had formal philosophical and theological training in our backgrounds.
I harbor a little anger at the fact that religion and the people who have surrounded me in my life have lied to me all of these years. So I guess you can say that I enjoy watching "The Atheist Experience" team smash theists arguments. It's like a spectator sport to me. Presently, I've been taking the time to study the work of Richard Carrier, David Fitzgerald and, Robert M. Price. Their work just simply fortifies atheists arguments. Unfortunately, I am still an isolated individual and, have to be careful what I say around friends and family including my wife. Sure, they know better than to argue with me but, anytime there's an engagement people are left with hurt feelings and bruised egos (usually them). I sometimes feel like a Jew in Nazi Germany or, drowning in a sea a stupid. It's just a delicate situation.
I know how you feel. I was raised in a Church of Christ home. I was forced to go to church three times a week. I attended a private Church of Christ school first through the eighth grade. We hadto attend chapel five days a week and participate in the chapel service one of those five days. Your grade would host the chapel service. I usually led songs since that didn't require much homework LOL. At that school, once a year I was also required to attend a series of lectureships that were two weeks long. Three hours in the morning and three hours in the evening. Let me tell you, when your a kid your attention span is about fifteen minutes and metal folding chairs are not comfortable. When I wanted to go to public school my parents didn't give me too hard a time since they were tired of the cost of private school.
I'm not so angry at the idea that all the people that surrounded me in my life have lied to me, because they actually believe the stories as real. What really makes me angry is when they use those beliefs as justification to hurt other people, and people like me. This is what can make me a "rebellious" atheist.
Yes, and they can be especially vindictive if they can cause problems for you at work. Often hard to prove, but they will do it if the situation is in their favor. Their smiley face acts hide their true nature. They can be very hateful, I know their kind well since I grew up around them. If you don't believe as they do, they are very passive aggressive.
they have been trained to treat you like being possessed by the devil, and that the devil can effect them through you.
They have no sens of real understanding of reality but a sick interpretation of it. One dictated by their Church which claims is dictated by god.
The real dogmatic ones are irritating. Especially the ones that talk religious drivel all the time, I prefer not to be around those kind. Its hard not to roll your eyes when they spout that nonsense. I heard a ton of it growing up.
it's hard to listen their contradicting nonsense stories, the other day some of my country-mate saying infidels(non-believers) they know they will go to hell (jahaneme) which is quite funny because if you know that you are going to hell through this way would you proceed it! completely non sense and self-contradicting
For me I'd say I started not too long before I turned 14. I ended up getting into YouTube a lot more and in turn found a lot of information then made me do further research. :)
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