★★★★★★★★★★★★ [1 second conversion] Convert theist to atheist, in 1 sec

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★★★★★★★★★★★★ [1 second conversion] Convert theist to atheist, in 1 sec

STATE PREMISE: Mankind observes things probabilistically, (empirical uncertainty principle. Also, recall that you “theists” see yourselves as NON-OMNISCIENT).

ASK: You claim to believe or know the existence of God to be TRUE/ABSOLUTE, BUT, how do you know truth/absoluteness is possible?

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This is the last post of this kind, amid my series: "Theists are probably trivially convertible."

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Nyarlathotep's picture
This one must be better since

This one must be better since the time went from 4.3 seconds, to 1 second.

valiya s sajjad's picture
That's why god belief does

That's why god belief does not rest on the scientific epistemology...

ProgrammingGodJordan's picture
Yes, but this one probably

Yes, but this one probably creates large doubt;
Theism is the belief that God's existence is true/absolute.

However, we aren't aware whether truth is possible, since we measure/observe events probabilistically.

This occurs on the horizon of theistic (and naturally, of non-theistic) non-omniscience.

MCD's picture
So, do you agree that god

So, do you agree that god belief rests on faith? If not, why not?

Do you also agree that faith is the excuse that theists give for believing in god or gods when their is no proof of the existence of gods.... and no good evidence to suggest that any gods exist? If not, why not.

ProgrammingGodJordan's picture
As the inventor of

@MCD

MCD QUOTE
So, do you agree that god belief rests on faith? If not, why not?

Do you also agree that faith is the excuse that theists give for believing in god or gods when their is no proof of the existence of gods.... and no good evidence to suggest that any gods exist? If not, why not.

As the inventor of 'non-beliefism' , I don't need certainty/faith/belief to observe probabilities.
(http://nonbeliefism.com)

As such, if we reduce the properties of the theistic God DESCRIPTION amidst science, we may see that god is any PROBABLY non-omniscient entity, with the ability to engineer non-trivial intelligence. [ie mankind, particularly artificial intelligence researchers may become Gods, as defined above]

Scientific evidence of God, by an athiest:

https://medium.com/@uni.omniscient.x/god-is-probably-quite-real-a466e9f2...

MCD's picture
Your response is nonsensical.

Your response is nonsensical. Forget I asked

ProgrammingGodJordan's picture
@MCD

@MCD

Your response is nonsensical. Forget I asked

This is the issue with atheism.

As as atheist myself, I invented 'nonbeliefism' as a framework for probably less bounded thought cycles.

Many atheists claim that God is not likely.

NOTE (1): My prior response does not define any empirical god, but INSTEAD, simply redefines theistic God DEFINITIONS, on the horizon of science.

NOTE (2): Science has for centuries, redefined theistic aligned nonsense, amidst sensible sequences. EG: Demonic possessions explainable as neuroscience aligned brain disorders

Whether you would care to observe, mankind is approaching particular theistic-God claimed characteristics, such as the ability to engineer non-trivial intelligence. (where other features such as omniscience, omnipotence is scientifically UNFOUNDED)

valiya s sajjad's picture
All the stuff about

All the stuff about possibilities and probabilities are to do with the scientific epistemology. Faith simply doesn't work on that epistemology.

ProgrammingGodJordan's picture
@ valiya s sajjad

@ valiya s sajjad

All the stuff about possibilities and probabilities are to do with the scientific epistemology. Faith simply doesn't work on that epistemology.

Well, "theists" say they are NOT OMNISCIENT.

So, the original post ties in well with their non-omniscience.

chimp3's picture
PGJ : The unintended

PGJ : The unintended consequence of your repetitive posts is that believers are going to copy and paste your arguments and say :

"This is your brain on atheism".

ProgrammingGodJordan's picture
Atheism would be sufficient

@CHIMP3

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PGJ : The unintended consequence of your repetitive posts is that believers are going to copy and paste your arguments and say :

"This is your brain on atheism".

Atheism would be sufficient to describe my 'condition'.
Nonbeliefism better describes it.

Anyway, this is the non-omniscient brain, rather than strictly my brain.

MCD's picture
Thanks. I thought it was

Thanks. I thought it was just me in connection with PG's bizarre responses

Alembé's picture
Hi PGJ,

Hi PGJ,

You state: "ASK: You claim to believe or know the existence of God to be TRUE/ABSOLUTE, BUT, how do you know truth/absoluteness is possible?"

Most of the theists that I know, really would not care about, worry about or understand your logical arguments. They just know god exists because that's what their mama, the pretty sunday school teacher and that nice preacher told them.

devout christian's picture
if there is no God who made

if there is no God who made male and female compatibly how does a child come into the world by senseless evolution mutations?i feel that there is more evidence for god then against.you know truth when something good works for you.Jesus said to pilate he is truth.like martin luther king once said the cycle of life bends to justice.He knew what truth is and was.

mykcob4's picture
@simply agnostic.

@simply agnostic.
Funny how you come to these absurd conclusions or that you could actually come to any conclusion at all. You can't even decide what YOU are! Pathetic!

MCD's picture
You're still making claims

You're still making claims about a god without providing any good evidence or proof that whatever god(s) you believe in actually exist.

Also, apparently you're back to being a theist again.

devout christian's picture
@mykcob4.

@mykcob4. why don`t you rebut the arguments at hand, why the ad hominin attacks.don`t you have anything reasonable to parody?

Nyarlathotep's picture
simply agnostic - if there is

simply agnostic - if there is no God who made male and female compatibly

Loaded question. Notice how you slipped in the postulate that someone made males and females compatible, to a group of people you know don't accept that postulate? Dirty pool!

mykcob4's picture
@ simply agnostic

@ simply agnostic
You don't HAVE an argument. How do you explain asexual species?
http://education.seattlepi.com/five-examples-organisms-use-asexual-repro...
Anyway, it doesn't matter. Just because humans mate to produce children doesn't in any way shape or form prove a god.

devout christian's picture
there is no hiding the fact

there is no hiding the fact that the world is mostly made up of straight people, the desires for the other gender are rampart.it is a proven fact by the population bearing that out over 6 billion people, the majority which are homosapiens heterosexual. tell me can homo sexuals breed children? I don`t think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nyarlathotep's picture
non sequitur

non sequitur

Algebe's picture
"the desires for the other

"the desires for the other gender are rampart"

I feel absolutely no desire for castle walls.

"the majority which are homosapiens heterosexual"

So what? The majority are also right-handed. Live and let live.

MCD's picture
Your comment is bizarre.

Your comment is bizarre. Most people are straight and some are gay. Thanks Captain obvious

Kataclismic's picture
Some people are born with two

Some people are born with two heads, most aren't, so there is no god.

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