How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?

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Gnostic Christian Bishop's picture
How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?

How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?

I find it quite strange that Christian, Muslims and Jews can ignore the immoral ways that their God is shown to have in the Bible, Qur’an and Talmud.

If you have read any of the critical books on God, you will have seen God described with some rather disingenuous terms that, if applied to a man, would see that man executed by any moral government in quick order. The Buddhist saying that if you ever meet God, kill him seems quite fitting. Frankly, I think killing him without making him suffer for a time would be too good for him. If hell were real, that would be a better end for him as mankind would surely need to see that torture to gain real closure for God’s crimes against humanity. This aside.

I can appreciate the value for society of local churches, mosques and temples but cannot fathom why lying priests, preachers and imams try to sell their God as a good God, when he is obviously more satanic than Satan. Perhaps scripture speak at least one truth in that the whole world would be deceived by Satan and his lying preachers and imams. Not that I believe in Satan.

As a Gnostic Christian, my focus has been to try to become a Parfait, a perfected moral man, using the methods Jesus taught. It has been a long climb up Jacob’s ladder and apotheosis put me up one rung and I have tried to climb higher, but seem to have stalled due to my inability to find arguments that are persuasive enough to loosen Satan’s grip on the minds of Christians, Muslims and Jews. Their need of fellowship is stronger than their work on their moral sense and they stay in their religions even though they know that their God is immoral and not worthy of their idol worship. This Gnostic Christian truth is not a flattering epithet for God, which is likely what cause their destruction by Inquisition.

The truth hurts the religious even when given with a loving touch. I am not that good at that but have seen good honest lovers of Christ get verbally abused by theists. They think hate is motivating those who speak against their God even when love is the motivator. Hate is born of love, and the Gnostic hate of God is justified on moral grounds, and the attempted correction of a believers moral sense and their thinking is done out of love. They forget that that is how Jesus was and how that love driven expression of hate with what he saw around him almost got him killed at the hands of the Jews. So the myth says.

The fact that I have had many theists resist entering into moral argument of their God indicates that they know that their God is immoral. I can appreciate that once a person accepts the fellowship that his tribal nature seeks, and he can survive without having better morals, he is loath to jeopardize the comfort zone he has created for himself. The problem is that theists are living in self-deception and for one who seeks or has attained Gnosis, a deeper knowing of himself, self-deception is basically not allowed. That is why I have to bother fighting a fight that is almost un-winnable.

If you have an answer to the question I posed at the onset, please enlighten me as I am quite disappointed to see so many living in self-deception and without Gnosis, and following Gods who are demonstrably more Satan like than God like.

In the terrible days that we will face from environmental degradation that will soon be upon us, a new and moral God will be required and we presently do not have one.

I recognize that our tribal and fellowship needs are quite strong and a part of our basic instincts. Do you have any idea as to how we can break Satan’s hold on Christians, Muslims and Jews and change their fellowship and tribal needs to a need for a God with decent moral values?

Regards
DL

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freeatlast's picture
God doesn't exist. Satan

God doesn't exist. Satan doesn't exist. What is the point of coming up with another god and make it better than the previous one? How is that going to make the world a better place? The only way, in my opinion, to make the world a better place is to eradicate all forms of religion. Surely it has caused enough damage by now. Imagine a world without any religion. Can only be better than what we have now. Not sure you'll find many people here who share your enthusiasm of that jesus oke's methods. He is part of the problem, if he even existed.

Gnostic Christian Bishop's picture
I do not disagree with your

I do not disagree with your view of God.

I disagree that seeking a new and better God as they did in the past is not a useful endeavour.

We seek the same as you. The best rules and laws to live by. Getting hung up on calling that an ideology or a God is useless when dealing with the religious and just makes atheists look bad.

Note how you and I follow the better thinking of the ancients before Christianity became an idol worshiping religion.

http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

They did not get hung up on what they called what they found, God or just a better ideology.

Regards
DL

mykcob4's picture
There are so many problems

There are so many problems with your OP it isn't even funny.
1) Christianity even agnostic christianity isn't any more moral than anything else.
2) Religion isn't based on morality at all. It is based on control and power. So tell me why ANY religious group would give up that power and give it to you?
No "god" is required to do anything, especially since no "god" did anything.
Your premise is false, therefore your argument is moot.

Gnostic Christian Bishop's picture
Those religions, I agree, are

Those religions, I agree, are not moral.

Gnostic Christianity is demonstrably more moral.

We grew by good moral arguments while Christianity had to use the sword as they could not argue their ridiculous ideology.

Regards
DL

Burn Your Bible's picture
Theists are blinded by faith

Theists are blinded by faith
Faith = bullshit
Theism = bullshit
:) in any form

Gnostic Christian Bishop's picture
I agree. Regards DL

I agree.

Regards
DL

MCD's picture
Almost all theists lack

Almost all theists lack critical thinking skills in connection with their faith positions

Gnostic Christian Bishop's picture
Indeed. That is why they push

Indeed. That is why they push bling obedience or submission, and end in following poor moral ideologies without questioning them.

Exactly what the churches and mosques and their lying clergy want.

Regards
DL

Tin-Man's picture
Myk may be a little rough

Myk may be a little rough around the edges sometimes, but he does make a good point. *chuckle* With very few rare exceptions, religion in general in ANY form is pretty much all about power and control over its followers. The Catholic Church, for instance, is a prime example of that. Why would any of those particular leaders in their right minds give up the wealth and power and control they have over so many millions of followers? So, while I see where you are trying to make your point and maybe provide a solution of sorts, I also have to agree with Free that simply forming another "religion" to follow would pretty much just add to the problem. You seem like a good person and your intentions appear genuine and sincere. That's a good thing. So why is it necessary to label that with some type of religious moniker? Heck, just be a good person, dude. Nothing wrong with that.
As for why people ignore the obvious questionable morals of their respective gods, it seems like you pretty much answered that yourself in your OP. Maybe not totally, of course, as there are dozens of reasons why people follow the way they do and choose to reject facts and logic when presented with it. Truly wish I had all the answers, but for now I have to be satisfied with the fact I am no longer one of those blind sheep following the herd.
Best wishes, Gnos.

arakish's picture
Here is something I said to

Here is something I said to my Pastor over four and a half decades ago.

Religion is humankind's worst enemy.
Second is themself.

I have to agree with myk, religion is nothing but [tyrannical] control. No matter which religious institute I have ever encountered, I see only indoctrination into a brutal tyranny.

Yes, I am rough on religion, but what I have been through with the church...

rmfr

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