Most convincing NDE of all time. I want skeptic atheist opinions

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Most convincing NDE of all time. I want skeptic atheist opinions

I feel that if we do have a soul, this NDE describes it best. Perhaps you all have heard of it. Please give me your input, I want honest opinions about this amazing testimony. It sounds great at the surface, could this prove the existence of a soul?

The Case of Al Sullivan. Bruce Grayson.
Al Sullivan, then a 56-year-old truck driver, almost died on January 18, 1998. A few days earlier he had experienced an irregular heartbeat and was rushed to the hospital for diagnostic testing, during which one of his coronary arteries became blocked. Doctors were forced to administer an emergency quadruple bypass surgery. It was at this time that Sullivan felt himself leave his body. In an account two years later, Sullivan would describe what he came to think of as—and some researchers came to label as—his near-death experience, or NDE:

I began my journey in an upward direction and found myself in a very thick, black, billowy smoke-like atmosphere ... I rose to an amphitheater like place ... I was able to grasp the wall and look over it into the area the wall was blocking. To my amazement, at the lower left-hand side was, of all things, me. I was laying [sic] on a table covered with light blue sheets and I was cut open so as to expose my chest cavity. It was in this cavity that I was able to see my heart on what appeared to be a small glass table.
This beginning, on its own, is a generic-enough surgery scene. It’s one that anyone with a television has likely seen, in high drama and vivid gore, 20 times over. Whether one has had real life experience witnessing (or undergoing) a surgery or not, the stage is set and familiar. Were this all that Sullivan had remembered, it would not be an especially intriguing account. But there was more.
I was able to see my surgeon, who just moments ago had explained to me what he was going to do during my operation. He appeared to be somewhat perplexed. I thought he was flapping his arms as if trying to fly.
Sullivan goes on—his deceased mother and deceased brother-in-law are there, and so is a tunnel lit in a “golden hue,” and so, too, a pervading general sense of euphoria and peace—but, at the risk of sounding callous, it’s that weird part about the arm flapping that really means something. That’s the part that Sullivan, were he as unconscious as one is surely meant to be during a quadruple bypass surgery, should not have been able to see. That was what Sullivan’s surgeon, Dr. Takata, looked like (as he later admitted) before putting on his gloves. He was in the habit of holding his hands to his chest—to keep himself from touching anything—and giving instructions to his assistants, using his elbows to point at various surgical instrument. Sullivan was clinically dead, eyes taped shut, sheets over him. How could he have seen this?

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Randomhero1982's picture
I wouldn't really give it any
Nyarlathotep's picture
If you want to convince us of
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Would that be on the lines of
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heh something like that...
biggus dickus's picture
Anybody can go to one of
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But there is a video of him
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I try not to be overly
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Most skeptics say that he
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It would take an independent
xenoview's picture
RT
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@Russian-Tank: "Sullivan was
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May i add, if this is
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"In an account two years
MCDennis's picture
I read this story and I am
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@MCD
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The doctor said he was never
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Where did he say the man was
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Cook, Greyson, & Stevenson -
Russian-Tank's picture
That does seem odd. I wonder
Nyarlathotep's picture
Typically that is the case
LogicFTW's picture
Even if, this story turns out
Randomhero1982's picture
There is an interesting
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I read that. How exactly does
Randomhero1982's picture
Well firstly you can ask
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That's a good arguement. The
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I'm sure he did experience
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That's true. It could also be
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Exactly, that's what I would
xenoview's picture
I would say that a natural

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