Your god is extremely narrow/selective

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LogicForTW,

LogicForTW,

You keep forgetting that you have been brainwashed by an ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tale. Your brainwashing has been so complete that you simply don't seem to be able to relate to anything without thinking about how it fits into the fairy tale. Sure, you may not "believe" in any of it but it holds you prisoner.

Some people think that the world is 6,000 years old because they use the fairy tale to calculate its age. And then that idea is reinforced by things like this = NISAN, 28, 5777. Jpost.com - The Jerusalem Post newspaper's online edition
http://www.jpost.com/

You have been exposed to the fairy tale all of your life, every day in one way or the other. There are churches on every corner, religious movies, preachers on tv and the radio, articles in the media, actions by politicians, friends, family members, other influential people. You spend hours on internet forums discussing it. You simply can't get away from it.

Humans believe all kinds of things without the slightest thought about why they believe those things.

The idea of a biblical type deity might have made sense when people were dumber than tree bark. Such things can be dismissed today because we understand intellectually why they are illogical. But we are still their prisoners emotionally. It might be better to start asking questions about how such beliefs control our actions.

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I have been so completely

I have been so completely brainwashed I am a unwitting prisoner when I am discussing why I reject all major organized religions on a debate forum? I am unable to relate to anything at all w/o thinking about its implications to middle east jewish religions fairy tale?

Bold claims, seems you know a lot about me, that you see this prison that I do not. Curious, what does that make you in this scenario? The brainwashed that lets others know they are brainwashed? Some super enlightened guy that is so kind to make me aware that I am brainwashed?

I mentioned the 6000 year old thing in my post.

I actually had much less exposure than most on these middle east religions then most people, but I do agree it is oppressively everywhere.

I agree on the rest of your points.
I also feel you went completely off topic and did not talk much about the original topic at all. Although I still appreciate the reply even if it sort of comes off as: "I am a blind fool rattling the walls of a cage I am not aware of" according to you.

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@LogicForTW: Great reasoning!

@LogicForTW: Great reasoning!

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Thanks for the compliment.

Thanks for the compliment. This is the first topic that I have started on these boards. Originally it was going to be a reply else where, and I decided to start a new thread with it instead. As I hoped it would spark interesting debate.

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I am a bit surprised none of

I am a bit surprised none of the other theist that frequent this board beyond John 6IX Breezy have commented on this. Perhaps they are busy right now. Maybe none of the rest have a good rebuttal? Yeah that is a friendly challenge :)

To me, as an atheist, this "narrow/selective god" is one of the most powerful reasons I am atheist. As a child I began to question Christianity that my parents were vaguely followers of, (at the time,) because of the whole: "how can this religion be right and all the other ones wrong?" This was later reinforced by realizing all these religions rely on the same kind of evidence, (a book, a few word/thought puzzles, and the fact it is widely practiced/believed in.)

And then later I find out the story of all the major miracles/wrath of the bible was incredibly selectively narrow band of time in this eternal god. And then that the location of all the stories in the bible is incredibly selective in space. (5 percent of the earth's surface, in all of incredibly enormous known universe.)

These thoughts lead me to the conclusion that the various major religion gods are very selective and operate in a very narrow time band/location. If god is eternal, all powerful and everywhere, why is the accounting of god ,(in the bibles, and other holy books,) paint him as so selective?

The rebuttals I expected were along the lines of: "god works in mysterious ways". "God has a plan that is unknown to us," (no kidding, keep up that line of thought!) Ya know, the nearly bullet proof armor theist scholars have built up that can explain any counter evidence, any action, any logic/reasoning flaw. The same nearly bullet proof armor that could be used for any other religion.

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http://www.newsweek.com/2015

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/thats-not-what-bible-says-294018.html

Newsweek did this article about the Bibl. explains so much of its origin. Original language was copied by people that weren't fully literate and some that didn't speak the language. Seems Newsweek agrees with Charlie on that one.

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JamieB,

JamieB,

Thanks for posting that link. I agree with about 95% of it.

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Sure:)

Sure:)
I looked up you name Diotrephes because I imagined you some brilliant historian or rain man and I was so happy to find this.
Diotrephes is mentioned in one passage of the Bible, in the short letter of 3 John. In brief, Diotrephes was a self-seeking troublemaker in an unnamed local church in the first century. We know nothing of his background, other than he was probably a Gentile (his name means “nurtured by Jupiter

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JamieB,

JamieB,

You're sharp.

One thing you will notice in the biblical stories is that the main fictitious characters have user-friendly names. All of the minor characters have names that could be considered legitimate names for the time periods. The Jesus character got the name Jesus around 1630.

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Disney picked up on that as

Disney picked up on that as well, for the most part, especially if they make their own stories instead of borrowing from others.

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Diotrephes,

Diotrephes,
Thats very manipulative. I never notice that.

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