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Keith Raye's picture
I don't see how you could

I don't see how you could keep cows for milk production without slaughtering. So far as I'm aware, cows only lactate when they have calves. That means that, in order to obtain milk, cows have to be inseminated. Once the calf is weaned, milk production stops. If you don't slaughter the calf at some stage and then re-impregnate the cow, you aren't going to get very much milk. The only alternatives, so far as I can see, is either to stop using cow's milk altogether, or end up with far more cows than you have either space or food for.

Nyarlathotep's picture
In my very limited experience

In my very limited experience in the USA:

Calves are separated from their mothers almost immediately, and forcibly weaned as quickly as possible to maximum the excess milk in the system. As you kind of suggested; if you raised the calves (more or less) naturally there would be almost no excess milk available.

Closet_atheist's picture
Nyarlathotep, your assumption

Nyarlathotep, your assumption of not enough milk would fit in accordance to beef cattle. But dairy cattle are bred up to vastly overproduce milk, some of my local farmers/ranchers will keep a dairy cow around to both raise a calve and provide milk for the household.

Hell some even keep a dairy cow around to feed their Kids. (Baby goats)

Pitar's picture
Not sure why mature humans

Not sure why mature humans are still suckling. No other animal does after weening. Nutritionally speaking, it isn't needed. I don't remember the last time I had dairy. Same goes for beef consumption. Not needed. AFAIC, cattle and dairy cows have no further purpose outside of some foisted epicurean cuisine. Then there's always kneeling before, and praying to, the dung hole of one. That should fetch a few converts as most weird things do but one would never in a gazillion years wager that an entire nation would. That's just wrong in the altogether sense of could not, would not and ain't never gonna.

Keith Raye's picture
@Pitar

@Pitar

To be fair about it, other adult animals don't drink milk because they don't get the chance to. But if you offer milk to any carnivore and most omnivores, they'll drink it readily enough because they know how nutritious it is simply by the smell.

Closet_atheist's picture
Actually most adult mammals

Actually most adult mammals are lactose intolerant, same as early humans. But a successful mutated trait emerged that allowed people access to a widely available staple.

Keith Raye's picture
That probably doesn't include

@ Closet Atheist That probably doesn't include cats and dogs, then. I've never known any cat or dog that would refuse milk.
How do you know that early human were lactose intolerant?

Closet_atheist's picture
@Keith Raye

@Keith Raye
I believe I read it in a science book somewhere, but I assume you can just google "early human lactose intolerance" and you can read up on it yourself.

Now I think it's only Europeans and Arabians that have that genome but I kinda forgot.

Keith Raye's picture
Has anyone ever considered

Has anyone ever considered that, if we didn't slaughter cows, pigs, sheep, goats, chickens etc, for food, there probably wouldn't be any? Cows milk, by the way, is a good source of vitamin D and calcium.

CyberLN's picture
Cows' milk doesn't have a lot

Cows' milk doesn't have a lot of vitamin D in it (between 50 - 100 IUs) unless fortified.

Keith Raye's picture
@CyberLN I accept that, but

@CyberLN I accept that, but the reason the vitamin D content of milk is important is that the human body can only absorb calcium in the presence of vitamin D. That's why water can't provide humans with calcium - it just goes straight through you.

CyberLN's picture
Interesting. Thanks for the

Interesting. Thanks for the info!

Keith Raye's picture
I happen to be very well

I happen to be very well versed in water chemistry, but ask any nutritionist or doctor, and they'll tell you the same.

ENDo friendo's picture
I am Indian, and I do want to

I am Indian, and I do want to eat beef. But I would not like them to be unbanned, because the methane level in the air is crazy high and it is contributing to climate change. If we start producing beef for a country with a billion consumer it will do nothing good. However I do dislike the fact that it has been banned because of the religious reasons. But it's good as it is.

RANJEET's picture
@End

@End

I'm also from India and you know how worse situation is. The downfall of Indian Democracy is already started. Beef ban is violation of Right to privacy. They are trying to make India Hindu Nation, They don't want seculars , atheists and that's why they started murdering seculars. And making this type of laws they are stepping towards their goal step by step . Our preamble states that India is secular Democratic Republic so how can any political party ban beef on religious sentiments ; so that's why current government is Anti National :(

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