What does music do to us?

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What does music do to us?

Why do we feel enlightened while listening to some good music? Not only does it go with soulful music but secular music as well. I feel like connected to a higher deity. Does a higher deity actually exist or is there a neurological reason behind it?

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CyberLN's picture
In an OP you wrote that you

In an OP you wrote that you are a theist. In your profile, however, you indicated you are atheist. Which is it?

If you are theist, you need to immediately correct your profile. Additionally, if you are theist you ARE NOT ever to post in the Hub again or I will shut your account down.

If you are actually atheist, you need to go show an edit in the OP in which you identified as theist.

Tin-Man's picture
Hey, Stewie, you seem to be

Hey, Stewie, you seem to be having an identity crisis. Might want to make up your mind, dude. Dishonesty is not tolerated well around these parts.

Cognostic's picture
We don't. You do. People

We don't. You do. People are different and affected differently by various types of music. You get to use your imagination any way you like, as do I. Fantasy is great for creative endeavors but a shit way to live one's life.

stewiegriffin's picture
okay. how would you describe

okay. how would you describe that trance like feeling?

Tin-Man's picture
@Stewie

@Stewie

Obviously, you do not pay attention very well.

Cognostic's picture
Look into psychology "Peak

Look into psychology "Peak Experiences." A peak experience is a moment accompanied by a euphoric mental state often achieved by self-actualizing individuals.[1] The concept was originally developed by Abraham Maslow in 1964, who describes peak experiences as "rare, exciting, oceanic, deeply moving, exhilarating, elevating experiences that generate an advanced form of perceiving reality, and are even mystic and magical in their effect upon the experimenter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_experience

Nothing special here. Nothing magical. Nothing spiritual. It is what human beings do and those of us with active imaginations, curiosity, and a desire to explore and expand seem to do it more often.

SecularSonOfABiscuitEater's picture
Please keep in mind that you

Please keep in mind that you have to stop using the word "we" so often. Especially if you are describing your own experiences. That's called projection and it's a logical fallacy.
I only feel euphoric when I am trying to. It's the function of neurotransmitters that causes euphoria. You can look this up when you have time.

We.. won't go walking.
We.. won't see summertime.
We... Won't imagine...
...That we can run on.

That's a song I close my eyes and zone out to.

Chuck's picture
Hi, can you define secular

Hi, can you define secular music?

arakish's picture
stew: "What does music do to

stew: "What does music do to us?"

Everyone knows the answer to this one. If it ain't approved Christian music or hymnals, it turns you into a spawn of Hell. Ask any Pastor.

rmfr

stewiegriffin's picture
that's a very radical belief

that's a very radical belief

David Killens's picture
Never seen the movie

Never seen the movie "Footloose"?

stewiegriffin's picture
that's a very radical belief

.

stewiegriffin's picture
@arakish. you have written

@arakish. you have written in your profile that you're an atheist. and you're talking about Christianity? wth?

arakish's picture
Sarcasm. rmfr

Sarcasm.

rmfr

Rickdiculous's picture
What does the GOD PLANT (aka

What does the GOD PLANT (aka weed) do to us?

Why do we feel enlightened while smoking some good weed? Not only does it go with soulful weed but secular weed as well. I feel like connected to a higher deity. Does a higher deity actually exist or is there a neurological reason behind it?

See the problem? Again, we can go on like this.

Cognostic's picture
Who is "WE." I hate the

Who is "WE." I hate the feeling of weed. It makes me stupid. Smoking pot gives you all the enlightenment of a street skank. Higher deity? You are stoned and your brain is on vacation. People have known this throughout history. Read the Ulysses and pay attention to the "Land of the Lotus Eaters."

SecularSonOfABiscuitEater's picture
You are right Cog, "we" is

You are right Cog, "we" is the wrong word. On the contrary to your experience, I really enjoy it. It's a ride for me and I make sure I do this when I have made sure that I have no further responsibilities for the day. This allows me to relax and enjoy that mellow sensation that would otherwise make me feel slow or dumb.

Different strokes for different folks.

Rickdiculous's picture
La di da.. *slow claps*

La di da.. *slow claps*

Guys that was supposed to be SARCASM. I just copied from the OP and replaced "music" with "weed" to prove a point.

Its really a monkey with the keyboard, isn't it?

arakish's picture
It is on my end. rmfr

It is on my end.

rmfr

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so. meditation too doesn't

so. meditation too doesn't have a spiritual reason but a neurological. right?

arakish's picture
stewiegriffin: "so.

stewiegriffin: "so. meditation too doesn't have a spiritual reason but a neurological. right?"

Nope. Anything with the mind is neurological. Meditation, for me for the most part, is simply a method for me to focus on doing something. More often than I really like, I use meditation to calm myself, focus on getting my autonomic functions back to a normal level after after a particularly horrible PTSD Flashback Night Terror.

I am also of the belief that if persons using meditation to focus, yet wish to call it "prayer," then I have no problem with that. If those same person wish to spew bullshit about efficacy of "prayer," then we are going argue.

Sometimes I even use meditation very similar to a prayer mantra by simply repeating something like, "Please do not let me injure myself doing this," over and over and over again. However, it is not "prayer." Simply a method to focus one's mind onto a task that can be dangerous, such as working on roof since I suffer from an exceptionally terrifying case of acrophobia (fear of heights).

As for the "spiritual" part of meditation, one first has to provide OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE that there is such a thing as "spirit."

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
Meditation has a bunch of

Meditation has a bunch of different meaning depending on what you have learned and from who. GI Gurdjieff makes a wonderful point of this in his book, "The Fourth Way." `

The question is, "Why are you meditating?" If you think you are becoming more enlightened by sitting on your ass and thinking, you are an idiot.

If you are trying to accomplish anything at all through meditation, in the Zen Tradition, you are doing it wrong.

When you sit, sit. When you breath, breath. It's not a mystical secret. Life happens now.

CyberLN's picture
The OPer has been blocked for

The OPer has been blocked for failure to comply with instructions to discontinue posting in the Hub. The Hub is not open to this poster as he self-identified in another OP as a theist.

Tin-Man's picture
Thank you, Cyber!... *happy

Thank you, Cyber!... *happy dance*...

arakish's picture
***tree rumbles from the

***tree rumbles from the forest***

Care to do the cha-cha Tin-Man?

rmfr

Tin-Man's picture
@Arakish Re: Cha-cha

@Arakish Re: Cha-cha

Sadly, my dance skills are more along the lines of the Hokey-Pokey.

CyberLN's picture
And that’s what it’s all

And that’s what it’s all about.

arakish's picture
@ Tin-Man Re: Hokey-Pokey

@ Tin-Man Re: Hokey-Pokey

I can do that one.

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
CHICKEN DANCE POLKA!!!!!!

CHICKEN DANCE POLKA!!!!!! KOREAN STYLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0

Tin-Man's picture
@Cog

@Cog

Hell yeah! I love that song and video!... LMAO...

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