pampering to whatever they ask
copying their longwinded pseudo bable talk
repeating the same answers over & over
acting like youre so very smart by googling & copying others
whats wrong with being yourself, talking like you do normally & calling stupid for what it is
why give a fuk what anyone thinks theist or otherwise
be yourself 1st
the theists that come here do so in the vast majority because they want a fight so don't waste your time/effort
nobody cares how many links you post or paragraphs you write
less is more & what you feel counts so just say what you mean ffs
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People often unwittingly 'copy theists'. They try to discuss theology as if it is something more than a mythology taken too seriously. We don't take witches or witchcraft seriously so why dignify god(s) or miracles with more plausibility? We may use the expression 'bless you' as if we think there is someone watching who may intervene to prevent infection. We may use the term 'faith in' or 'believe in' about subjects like evolution or astronomy as if they are subjects no less reliant on intuition and superstition than religious gods and prophets. I often list these examples of religious terms used to unduly dignify religionist's opinions...
Theology = mythology
Prayer = incantations
Christian name = first name
... there are many such examples. Religionists talk of witches as 'superstition' but their god in "Heaven" sent us a prophet to "show us the way". They argue that isn't superstition. So the subject of this thread is important - don't lend credibility to the incredible by modifying attitudes and language just to please religionists. Respect them, be tactful and consider their feelings, but don't treat them like children.
Why OBEY your demand? I fight all the time on this forum. I have weeded out theist trolls, sockpuppets and have been very frank and blunt about it. I don't hold back anything. I don't need any advice from you. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone that fights harder against religion than I.
I don't. I am not a hypocrite like almost every theist I know
There's entertainment challenging the theists. For me, the people who do make an attempt to shill their doctrines openly sample for me the ignorance of the masses from whence they come. There's not one who has an original thought to champion but rather the well rehearsed, centuries old prattle of their kind. Not one can give evidence of their position. Instead they turn to the bible or whatever tome they subscribe to because they are the only works supporting all they've been indoctrinated to believe and live by. Always entertaining, always expected and, in the end, always pitiful.
You are confusing theists with their ideas. There are times when it is entirely appropriate to "follow" theists and times when it is not. It is not the theists you oppose but their ideas. If you are at a family Thanksgiving, and refuse to stand quietly while others pray, you are an ass. You have ruined the occasion for everyone, Who in the hell died and made you the leader of the world. If someone asks you why you did not pray, it is completely appropriate to confess, I do not believe in God or religious rituals.
Where you are and who you are as a person, has everything to do with defining the activity of your friends and family as "theist stupidity," or just understanding that they are quite likely wrong when all the FACTS are taken into account. Is there nothing in your life that you are wrong about? What would your reaction be to the person who walked up to you and called you stupid?
"What would your reaction be to the person who walked up to you and called you stupid?"
We are not "walking up to people". And if someone thought I was stupid I would wish to know why.
It is also reasonable to argue that religionists could have more sense and respect for people than to expect them to stand while they pray. Everyone should be entitled to their own views and equal respect.
If somebody I knew called me stupid, depending on the context of the moment I might want to know why. (Because, quite frankly, I can actually be pretty damn stupid sometimes. Just ask my wife.) On the other hand, if a stranger walked up to me for some odd reason and called me stupid, I would likely just look at him/her, shrug my shoulders, laugh, and say, "Okay. Whatever," and then simply walk away. What do I care what they think? I don't know them. They do not know me. Why bother with any other reply?
I totally agree that everybody is entitled to their own views. (Disclaimer: AS LONG AS THOSE VIEWS DO NOT CAUSE OR CONDONE HARM TO INNOCENT PEOPLE. Yes, I used the term innocent intentionally.) And I much prefer to treat others with respect whenever possible, until - of course - that individual or group commits such an act that would cause them to relinquish their privilege to that respect. With that in mind, if a person or group has my respect, regardless of what I or they may or may not believe, then most often it means we have reached a mutual understanding with each other and will conduct ourselves accordingly to those understandings. Why? Because we do not want to cause any undue offense to each other. Therefore, if I am at a family gathering (or even visiting a friend's family for a dinner, perhaps), and the family's custom is to say a prayer before eating, then I will stand or sit quietly and bow my head with them. The prayer may mean nothing to me, but if it means something to my friends or family, then it is important to me not to offend them. Because, just as Cog said, yes, I would be a total ass for objecting to bowing my head with them. UNLESS, however, my family and friends were already perfectly fine with my views and stance and didn't care one way or the other if I bowed my head or not. In which case, I would STILL bow my head out of respect for my family and friends.