Are we in a constant loop of reliving our same lives over and over again. Does the Universe just restart in a new big bang after the end of the big crunch? Is the Loop Theory the scientific explanation to the Universe, Multiverse, the meaning of life, God, and the Afterlife? You decide.
Detailed Explanation of the Loop Theory - https://youtu.be/E8sWTexhSN8
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So far, evidence points to the universe not "crunching", but rather "ripping".
Secondly, even if the universe "re-banged", there's no guarantee it would form the same "stuff" that we see today. There seems to be some very small, but still very valid evidence, that the universe went through a phase transition early in its formation. If it had not done that, or if it went through another one now, matter and energy and everything we associate with those wouldn't be what it is now. What we think of as even just 'reality' would be quite different.
The loop theory states that once it re bangs it doesn't form the same stuff. Each time its different but since it expands and collapses infinitely it will eventually make the same stuff because there are a finite amount of ways it can unfold.
OK, I watched, or more accurately, read the video.
When I said "stuff" I think we're not thinking along the same lines.
You used the example of the bag of marbles. Our universe is an arrangement of marbles, when it crunches the marbles are put back in the bag, and when it re-bangs the marbles are emptied again but this time they come out in a different arrangement. Is that about right?
What I meant would be different. When (IF) the universe crunches the marbles are put back in, but when the universe re-bangs it's not marbles that come out of the bag next time.
Mind Blown, Science gasm.
Definitely interesting, and would make a great plot for a sci-fi film, but I don't see how we could really use the information. The current evidence doesn't necessarily oppose the idea, but it doesn't really support it either. It's definitely a cool thought, but until it's proven or widely accepted, it really serves no purpose. But hey, I'd never fault creativity and curiosity.
You know you just gotta have faith, and this makes way more sense than every other religion I can think of.
That doesn't justify faith. I prefer to keep my mental illness to a minimum.
@ Jared Re: Mental illness
C'mon, Jared! What fun is THAT? I embrace my mental illness to its fullest! Cut loose a little, my friend. Stop being so uptight. In the immortal words of Mr. Cheshire Cat, "We're all mad here."
Madness is different. I'm nothing if not eccentric. But delusion is off the table for me. That's why I don't use drugs or alcohol. I'm high on reality.
@Jared
Wise choice, young man. Very wise. Never let anybody convince you otherwise.
I'd like to think that reality in its truest form is more intoxicating than any grand scheme or hoax created by ignorant men in a time before science. Hence, I'm not religious. I also think that reality in its truest form hinges on evidence, and loop theory is not yet substantiated. But the reason I don't use drugs is because the reality of life is so alluring to me that I can't help but wish to experience it for the maximum duration. Dying young over a quick fix would be a sour disappointment.
Like you said, Jared, at least it is entertaining to think about in an abstract way. Mental exercises and speculation like that always amuse me. Good fun.
To be sure. Why do you think the Greeks and Romans had so many philosophers? There was nothing better to do during Pax Romana. Inevitably, when turmoil ends, so begins a new age of scholasticism when thoughts and ideas abound. The most notable of which were the Greek sophistry periods, the Roman periods of advancement in every facet of civilization, and of course, the Enlightenment of western Europe.
A scientifically accurate afterlife would be trippy as balls.
Not to be a party pooper BUUUUUT, Does fucking matter? Please don't be offended but it's a farfetched theory that might, and really the odds are low, have some validity. But let's just imagine it's true. Okay, the universe all galaxies expand destroy themselves and re-emerge as a completely different thing. Happening over and over, exhausting every possibility until eventually, the same universe comes around again. I'm guessing that is the theory. Given what we know of the size of the universe it is uncalculatable how long it would take to re-emerge as the same universe. So what difference does it really make? I guess if you are laying on your back in the middle of the desert staring at an unobstructed view of the stars it might be fun to bounce around in your head. But it reminds me of stoners higher than a kite talking to each other.
Something like this:
"Dude! I knew a guy that had a chimp. He dressed him up in a bandana sunglasses and bib overalls. The chimp was cool. He toked out with us and he listened to heavy metal."
" Oh Yeah? Well, last week I went to a Metalica concert. I got to go backstage. Those guys were REAL. They took one look at me and said GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!"
Ha, nice analogy. Love Metallica by the way.
@ Jared
I have waited a long time to work my idea of two stoners talking into a conversation. It seemed appropriate.
I smoked a lot of bowls to make this theory and the video so in a way it kinda is one of those conversations.
@Myk Re: Stoners
Hell YES, it was appropriate! I'm still laughing, because that was exactly along the lines of what I was thinking when I replied to Jared a few minutes ago. I can only hope the sunglasses on the monkey were Ray Bans. LMAO
Of course they were!
There is another model to the universe, which from my humble understanding of physics makes a bit more sense than the big bang theory and that is the Torus Universe model.
https://youtu.be/tbruPR3o0Zc
Theory goes that time, space, energy and matter are travelling on the face of a doughnut, expanding on one side until it reaches the outer rim and then contracts until it goes through the hole of the doughnut where it expands again. The process is constant and eternal. I am no physicist so I will admit I don't have a full understanding of the model, but it is interesting to explore other hypotheses.
Just to be clear: the notion of a torus shaped universe is not a competitor to the big bang theory; it is an extension of it.
So is loop theory which also accounts for the multiverse, no big deal
WOW donut theory looks nuts!
Mmmmm..... Cosmic donuts... Mmmmmm.... *drool*
Hahahahaha
[I really wish emojis worked on this forum]
Einstein theorized that when a black hole reached unity a Rosen-Einstein Bridge would form (a wormhole) and could be a bridge to another time. So if the entire universe scrunched back together in a massive black hole and the entire mass of the universe got tossed back in time about a trillion years and burst upon the scene as a huge explosion, kind a like a big blast...or big bang.
This loop theory was partially explored in "Tau Zero", a 1967 sci-fi novel by Poul Anderson.
To: Everybody
Gentlemen, I have been following this discussion, and I must tell you all that there are some really trippy and far out postulations being spewed forth here........ and I LIKE IT. *big grin* Keep up the good work. Carry on...
I've read about this theory a few times, and although not observationally supported... still intreguing!
I suppose we'd need to observe some kind of contracting within the universe to lend some kind of weight to the arguement, and although it's not been seen, one could say that it could be down to us just not seeing it yet... given the amount of time light takes to travel.
I suppose for now we can only go by the well-resolved mapping of the cosmic microwave background, and the evidence presented that shows that the expansion of the universe is not being slowed down by gravity but rather accelerating.
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