women have come far haven't we? Our kings could have a mistress, yet a Queen would be hung for seeking a man outside her kings bed, now look at us. Point being, as atheists, women bring more than challenges, we bring strength and a less than dogmatic society. We are strong, able, and able to out wit our foes. I ask of you, do women in this day and age bring more strength or demise to atheist's? I think we bring a solace to the purgatory once present. who are we now in this medium?
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I think women bring strength to atheism.
I think women strengthen every field when they're allowed to participate fully based on their abilities as individuals. Cultures that keep women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen tend to be economically and socially backward. We've made a lot of progress in the West, but we still have a long way to go. The churches are the most backward of all. I can't understand why women want to have anything to do with these medieval misogynistic boys' clubs.
You mentioned royalty. In an interview years ago, Princess Anne was asked what was the most difficult thing about being a royal princess. She replied without hesitating, "Trying to appear stupider than my older brother."
From the people around me I see women are more attune to believe compared to men. While the extremism is male domain. But when it come to knowledge women seem content with simple basic knowledge of theology to perform, while men are so eager to study, either for leadership or for show off.
In the lecture halls the women are the nodding party.
you stated "women are more attune to believe" or is it that as a weaker species we have learned to overcome and learn more than so our counterpart. Women are not content with "simple" knowledge" we have and will always perform, why else would the UK have a Queen still this day? Women offer and bestow prowess, knowledge, spite, fervor, keen insight and so much more to which we have learned from men....say you....what of this?
You posed a question in your OP and that what I responded to, this is your question; "I ask of you, do women in this day and age bring more strength or demise to atheist's?". But anyway.
The so called progress that many women today are hooreying like kingkong hitting his chest is their own demise - literally.
Angela Merkel is a scientist, succesful politician - no children.
Julia Gillard, highly educated, succesful politician - no children.
Hillary Clinton, a lawyer, succesful politician - one child.
Sandra Bullock, beatiful and famous, succesful artist - no children.
Katherine Winnick, beatiful and famous, succesful artist - no children.
Helen Mirren, Condoleezza Rice, and many many many more.
These worldly achievement that boasted by women is the one that deleting themselves from the face of the earth - literally.
They make themselves obsolete, redundant.
In the Qur'an there is a warning to us the believers that if we disobey his command he said:
"I will put in your place another people and they won't be like you".
OR we can all reproduce like rabbits, quickly and badly overpopulate the earth, greatly exceeding its capability to support us all, and billions starve to death, die of exposure, or a whole host of nasty diseases. It is said we are currently already doing 2 earths worth a resources everyday, quickly drawing down our pool of stored up resources.
BTW, even the followers of Quran has over the long term, (centuries) greatly reduced how many kids are born to a family. Simply because to reach an average of say: 5 kids that live to adulthood it typically only takes 5 kids. Where 200 hundred years ago it was more like 10, maybe more plus, they did not have any form of birth control and frequently only cursory knowledge how to increase or decrease the odds of pregnancy.
"reproduce like rabbits" was so common back in the old days, in the east or in the west because no one knew how to slow it down. My father told me he used calendar method as advised but it did not work and he end up with 13 kids. But we have few ways this days how to space the pregnancies and we use it. You know in Islam family planning is allow.
But the heavy brainwashing with belief that the successful women in career is the top choice and sacrificing their womanhood, to seek the men's approval - is their death. Without children there is not much good to boast "I am a successful woman".
Sorry to say it bluntly but that is the truth.
The truth to you is: women that do not have a lot of children, and do career are sacrificing their womanhood and is death?
Yikes.
You are gonna find a lot of actual women, (especially here,) are going to strongly disagree with you.
Zwalja, what a load of crap!
zwalja
What you really meant to say was the man is looked down upon by man with children. Which makes the man feel like he is a failure as a husband and father. The woman has just as much right to a successful career as the man.
I would say men have been mostly screwing up, especially in politics, I am for giving women a shot at it. I know some women will be better than others, but history shows just how well men do, maybe we can do better with a more representative 50/50 split in women/men in positions of power? If anything it would at least be more fair and representative.
I think women are just as capable (of improving or fucking the world up) as men are.
Never been asked this question before. Don't make me think. I'm not at my best when I have to do that considering life is more about practiced knee-jerk reactions to events than ponderous profundities all queued up and begging sincere consideration.
Perhaps the question/answer lies is in the context of achievement. Women drive fast cars, fly stunt/military/commercial planes, attain leadership positions of military command ranks and civilian corporate counterparts, die humbly and heroically on the battlefield, often raise children alone after abandonment by irresponsible baby dads and...hmmm...etc.
What was the question again? Oh yea, coming far...
Yes. Women have come a long way in a heretofore man's world. Vying for recognition in a life that has no known purpose has got to be a tough row to hoe. Atheism is a bitch of a whole different measure and welcoming someone to it seems hardly a gracious gesture. Perhaps a better greeting would be that, yes, I believe women should command equal recognition, dispensation and compensation as men.
Women have come quiet far but I am concerned with those that would power such as Angela Merkel, Theresa 'Sith Lord' May and Hilary 'Cyberdine Systems model T100' Clinton.
Rather than taking the opportunity to really become global icons, They have become campaign poster for various morally questionable positions.
But it is nice to see equality is becoming more the norm.
@ random: i see you pick the worst of all cases, who stands next to a woman in power, still a man, in retribution of being overthrown. alone, and without male religious influence, women are the true essence of atheism, being that, as a gendered species, we are equally yolked. Having stated this, speak to me as a man, since this is the position you seem to hold, and as a man in disguise, as many women did as being Queen and king synonymous to to each other. often while their man sought mistresses. is this right, or equal? no! So, I say in the end, whatever it may be, women will prove steadfast!
Women do not need to justify their competence, strength, and intelligence. Assholes who deny the latter need to justify that argument. As far as atheism, Madelyn Murray O'Hair was the first atheist to inspire me. Emma Goldman is still worth reading. So, women atheists are not new voices in this discourse.
Well, they have had to take more crap than men, and from them, and be expected to remain silently and steadfastly loyal to them. Some women love their roles, others have no use for them while others find purpose in rebuking them. None of it matters much in the context of atheism's zero-purpose existence so find something worth expending the effort and energy on with the short time you have. I know a woman of similar cut and spark who decided to make and market designer cookies. She's still young and very comfortable right now.
Oh, and atheism is not a competition. It just is.