Neutrino traced to black hole in distant galaxy

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Algebe's picture
Neutrino traced to black hole in distant galaxy

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jul/12/neutrino-that-struck-ant...

Using a facility buried in the Antarctic Ice, scientists have detected a neutrino and traced it back to a giant black hole in a distant galaxy. The neutrino reached Earth after a 3.7 billion year journey that began around 10 billion years after the creation of the universe 10,000 years ago.

This momentous discovery heralds a new era in astronomy and creationist mental gymnastics.

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NewSkeptic's picture
wow, a straight line for 3.7

wow, a straight line for 3.7 billion years, and I thought driving through Kansas was boring.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
It's a plant by Satan. Just

It's a plant by Satan. Just like the dinosaur bones. It cannot be true because the bible says so.
Anyway, neutrinos are described in the bible, as are black holes, so they knew all this stuff you scientists are just discovering. It is part of gods plan, its so mysterious I don't know either. *head swivels 180 degrees, repeats phrase like an automaton* Just have Faith.

Cognostic's picture
Enter the Galaxy Song......

Enter the Galaxy Song...... Just remember that your standing on a planet that's evolving, revolving at 900 miles an hour..... Remember 50% or the population has an IQ below 100 - I'm betting the majority of them are Creationists.

arakish's picture
Wait a minute... Isn't The

Wait a minute... Isn't The Guardian an Absolutist newspaper?

rmfr

Algebe's picture
@arakish: Isn't The Guardian

@arakish: Isn't The Guardian an Absolutist newspaper?

Really? I just linked to that article because they don't have a paywall.

arakish's picture
To be wholly honest, I don't

To be wholly honest, I don't know. It just seems to be one from other articles I have read. That is why I tend to stay away from.

Perhaps I should give the article a look-see.

rmfr

arakish's picture
Okay. I now know why I

Okay. I now know why I assumed (made an ass of myself) it is Absolutist. Towards the end of the article, this is highlighted in bright yellow:

"For as little as $1, you can support the Guardian – and it only takes a minute. Thank you."

And I automatically assumed it was an Absolutist organization asking for handouts. It just seemed to me to be a tactic they would use.

Sorry about that. I apologize. I am sorry. (Know you are, but what does that make me.)

rmfr

LogicFTW's picture
My understanding is the

My understanding is the guardian is fairly liberal and progressive, but I don't really keep track, I try to get information/news from many different sources, if anything to prevent my own biases and get a better full picture.

I believe the guardian is a UK based news organization? Perhaps I should just google it :)

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Logic

@ Logic

Yes it is the last bastion of progressive newspaper reporting and not in one of the Oligarchs stable of putrescent garbage. It is UK based and according to Murdochs crew a left wing, almost communist rag. Naturally then, I read it. It is a liberal progressive and accurate traditional news organisation without paywall, and therefore worth supporting with a small subscription. If it pisses Murdoch and his ilk off then I am all for it.

It is not strident nor as anti establishment as Crikey or AI, and has a base in Australia and the US. Worth a daily read.

arakish's picture
"...and according to Murdochs

"...and according to Murdochs crew a left wing, almost communist rag."

In that case let me get over there and start giving that buck a month.

rmfr

Nyarlathotep's picture
This is essentially a

This is essentially a primitive neutrino telescope. I never thought they would exist in my lifetime. In principle a good neutrino telescope should be able to make observations beyond the surface of last scattering. It is a very exciting time.

David Killens's picture
This is one more confirmation

This is one more confirmation that science works. Neutrinos were predicted by science, and now that a proper detection rig has been constructed, they have been observed. The recently commissioned LIGO Lab has detected gravitational waves. Hubble had detected gravitational lensing, predicted by Einstein. The LHC has detected and confirmed the Higgs boson particle.

And I really shake my head and wonder how theists can deny the effectiveness of science.

If I was to boil "science" into a short definition, it is "critical thinking".

@Nyarlathotep

Yes, it is a very exciting time. It seems that major breakthroughs and discoveries come on each week.

TESS was launched back in April this year, it has reached it's final position in space, and calibration and commissioning tests are taking place right now. TESS is at least 400 times more effective than Kepler, and that workhorse has been discovering exoplanets at a wonderful rate. I can't wait until TESS results start pouring in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtLPKYl4AHs

LogicFTW's picture
Dang I really need to read up

Dang I really need to read up more on neutrinos and what the implications of this finding are. Perhaps someone well versed in this is patient enough to give me a quick run down? I have taken: college, (undergraduate,) level of: physics, calculus, and chemistry but that was well over a decade ago, to give a quick frame of my background knowledge.

Sadly only gotten highschool level cosmology, should of used one my electives on cosmology, hindsight 20/20.

arakish's picture
Hell, even I have forgotten,

Hell, even I have forgotten, but quickly came back after I read this short blurb from the Great Wiki:

A neutrino (denoted by the Greek letter ν) is a lepton, an elementary particle with half-integer spin, that interacts only via the weak subatomic force and gravity. The mass of the neutrino is tiny compared to other subatomic particles. Neutrinos are the only identified candidate for dark matter, specifically hot dark matter.

As said, according to most it is a candidate for dark matter. That is why they want to be able to capture them. Not just detect them.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Particles/neutrino.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJPJvBtYvjY (when this came up, it also had about a dozen other neutrino videos)

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
According to Neil Degrass

According to Neil Degrass Tyson and Lawrence Krauss "We are the stuff of stars." The atoms in my left testicle came from the stars. So I am just not real impressed that space junk has found its way to our little lump of rock. I can't wait for the Creationists take on this.

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