This must be a dilemma for feminists??

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CyberLN's picture
TD, you wrote, “I would

TD, you wrote, “I would expect the grounds for recruitment would be to have the most effective police force hence the best candidates should get the job.“

Do you posit that matching the demographics of a community in the civil services that support that community is not most effective? Could the grounds for recruitment include gender and heritage? Would not
, for example, an Hispanic female officer have a better chance of being trusted by an Hispanic woman who was reporting a rape?

I chose a publicly funded example precisely because it is the community paying for it. When the community is paying for it, I think it should absolutely reflect the demographics of that community.

Many years ago I worked as a LEO. I was good at it. I loved it. And I know that the reason I was able to do it then was because of EEO. If you think that preferential treatment of white males doesn’t still exist then you are just not in touch with reality.

Terminal Dogma's picture
I posit no such thing other

I posit no such thing other than assembling the most effective police force possible. Don't give a fuck what color, gender age etc because I am not prejudicial like social engineering leftists are.

CyberLN's picture
TD, I do not believe you do

TD, I do not believe you do not give a fuck about it. I do not believe you when you say you are not prejudicial.

A person’s sex, gender, age, color, heritage is absolutely a part of who they are. To not ‘give a fuck’ about it is to purposefully blind yourself to aspects of who someone is because you choose to dismiss those things. It reeks of bigotry.

Also, are you calling me a ‘social engineering leftist’? If so, wtf is that?

Terminal Dogma's picture
Splendid; I discriminate I am

Splendid; I discriminate I am a bigot, I don't discriminate I am a bigot.

What a load of horse shit.

I have no common ground with the left, this is what you people do, divide and make free thought and debate impossible.

Sushisnake 's picture
@Cyber

@Cyber

Re: " are you calling me a ‘social engineering leftist’? If so, wtf is that?"

Might be quicker to drop this and join that than wait for an answer, mate:

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Flamenca's picture
@TermD: You would have to

@TermD: You would have to look at specific cases to answer @Cber.

No, you are the one who is making the claim, so you are the one who needs to provide specific cases to prove your point.

This is insane. Are you really an atheist? You sure are not a skeptic. You act like most believers who come to this forum: making their ludicrous claims in confusing illogical arguments full of logical fallacies, but not a single justification or piece of evidence for them.

P.S. @CyberLN is giving you an example. Let's see how you reason your answer now...

Terminal Dogma's picture
@flam, you are hysterical,

@flam, you are hysterical, you don't get basic conversation principles.

Flamenca's picture
@TD, says the guy who

@TD, says the guy who deliberatively ignores other people's direct questions; who doesn't follow basic rules of respect for other human beings, who uses ad hominems as often as commas and whose only argument is "those leftist are evil". Yeah, right. Am I supposed to feel ofended?

Sushisnake 's picture
@Flamenca

@Flamenca

"You are hysterical"? You must have one of these!

https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hpoZHg...

Flamenca's picture
@Sushi, I'm still surprised

@Sushi, I'm still surprised he didn't said I'm on my period... It's been a very long time since a man called me hysterical, when he really meant passionate or aggressive (or maybe rude). It used to be a very old, sexist and ignorant insult for some men. I am in shock a young atheist still uses it. It would be even hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

P.S. @OldMan... I am depressed because you only missed @Apost. Sniff sniff

(Edited to fix)

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Flamenca

@ Flamenca

Good lord, I did not intend to imply that only Apost was missed, no, I missed Apost because of his erudite and logical reasoning had been lacking in the forums. However your equally ferocious intelligence, tempered only by your intellectual grace and beauty ( and I am sure physical attributes but Apost will have to describe those) were sorely missed as well, as demonstrated in these last few exchanges.

Flamenca's picture
@OldMan: I'm blushing!!! You

@OldMan: I'm blushing!!! You're so amazingly kind. That's one of the best compliments I've ever received in this forum (or in my life)! And I missed you guys very much!

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Flamenca.

@ Flamenca.

I am rarely, if ever kind...distressingly accurate, pedantic, annoying...so my dear wife tells me almost daily..LOL...And I love apost's description of you below...the man is head over heels!

Aposteriori Unum's picture
She is positively gorgeous.

She is positively gorgeous. Small enough to pick up up and spin around... brilliant in every way. Graceful in motion, stunning, too, are her eyes, electric her voice... old man, she is a sight to be witnessed... and the best of best friends in all my imagination.

Flamenca's picture
Awwwww!

Awwwww!

arakish's picture
Here is my stand:

Here is my stand:

male = female = human = female = male = human. Period.

rmfr

arakish's picture
And then I have always loved

And then I have always loved these stories:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMnKMyAx89A

rmfr

Sushisnake 's picture
@Arakish

@Arakish

Nice video. I named my red cattle bitch Boudicca- she lived up to her name when it came to protecting her pack, too. :-) I lost her to an eastern brown snake a long, long time ago. Came home from work and found them both dead on the verandah. I still miss her.

The comments section on the video was almost as entertaining as the video- "cucks", "beta males"; "feminist agendas"- red pill religion everywhere!

arakish's picture
@Sushi

@Sushi

Yeah its kind of sad when us males, the true apes of the species, just cannot admit that the female species is actually superior. At least that is how I treated my wife and daughters. My Queen and My Princesses, and me their lowly servant.

rmfr

Edit to add: And the worst thing I can never get over was when I recently had an Absolutist Apologist, with a PhD in religion no less, say this to me in a discussion once:

“You should be ashamed of yourself for not raising your daughters in the Word of God. You should be ashamed for never taking them to church to teach them to be proper Christians. It is no wonder you lost them all. You lost your entire family as payment for not raising your children correctly.”

As unbelievable as it seems, this was the final nail in their coffin for me. Never again shall I ever trust any word spewing from an Absolutist again. Even if they say they are sorry for my loss. For me, whenever they say they are sorry for my loss, it has always seemed to have that little "Fuck You! You deserved it!" between the words.

This is ultimately why I have become a militantly anti-religionist today. I am like their terrorist. I am their Freddie Kruger. I am their SoulHaunter.

Sorry, I need to get this ranting under control...

rmfr

Flamenca's picture
Oh@Arakish, what a disgusting

Oh@Arakish, what a disgusting thing to listen to in that situation! What a cruel and horrible human being you have to be to act like that!

You are very lucky to know better, though
I'm appalled at some people's evil minds.

arakish's picture
@Flamenca

@Flamenca

Ain't it? And I never truly said we NEVER took our daughters to church. All I said was that we raised our daughters to have an open mind and search for the answers themselves. Then he spewed that horse hoowhee at me. Then kept spewing more bullshit never letting me get another word in.

We had taken our daughters to church a few times, even enduring the horrible diarrhea the people were spewing. Even let our daughters go to church with their friends. However, in the end, our daughters made us proud. They decided they wanted to be like mommy and daddy and be rational. Both of them even said, "Can they actually be that stupid?"

I just no longer can talk to Absolutists nicely when the topic of religion comes up. I am like Christopher Hitchens now. I don't give damn if anything I say is offensive to anyone anymore. If they take offense, that's their problem. I pull no punches and bring out all the artillery and let them have it.

https://i.imgur.com/TspaxXD.png

However, here on these forum boards, I am starting to let myself enjoy myself making fun of the Absolutists, much like Tin-Man, Old Man, and Qu@si. I am kind of tired of debating with them. Only in real life, face to face, discussion do I let them have it.

rmfr

Tin-Man's picture
@Arakish Re: Apologist

@Arakish Re: Apologist statement

*jaw dropping to floor*.... Ho-ly fuck-ing fuckity fuck!.... *rubbing face with both hands*...What kind of brain-dead sadistic piece of pond scum shit-eating monster would ever say such a thing to a person? What the fuck is wrong with people like that? Honestly, how did you keep from turning that son of a bitch into a grease spot on the floor? Dude, you owe absolutely ZERO apologies for the rants and how you feel. Holy shit, I'm pissed just THINKING about that slimey excuse for a human being. Damn.... I sooo wish I could have been there with you when he said that.

Now it's my turn to apologize, everybody. But intentional blatant cruelty like that by individuals who place themselves high upon righteous pedestals tends to set me off.

Flamenca's picture
@Arakish: I'm not at the

@Arakish: I'm not at the least surprised you act the way you do.

@Tin-Man: Exactly what most of us were thinking. You just said it out loud.

arakish's picture
@Tin-Man

@Tin-Man

To be completely and wholly honest. Even to this day, many months later, I still do not know how I kept myself under control. After he spewed for about 15 minutes, I just said, "Fine." And walked away. Ain't never seen him again.

As said, I do not know how I kept myself under that much control. Believe me, I wanted to go completely nuclear on that asshole.

I guess the only reason I kept myself under control is that I had already gone nuclear on another absolutist for saying something similar before years ago. If it had not been for my two friends with me, I would have turned him into a grease spot. I guess the shame at having lost control before kept a sub-conscious hold on me. And get this, that first one I nearly beat to death, he NEVER pressed charges. And I have always said he was a bigger man for doing that than I was for beating him half to death.

Thanks for the support.

rmfr

Tin-Man's picture
@Arakish

@Arakish

Well, in that case, you are certainly a bigger man than I am. Because I would have turned the potato-brained sack of puss into a plie of hamburger meat and never lost a moment of sleep over it. As far as I'm concerned, that self-righteous pig-headed (my apologies to all pigs out there) lack of humanity should have THANKED YOU for pounding some amount of sense into his self-delusioned brain. (Dammit... Now I'm mad again.) I know there are those on here who may disagree, but I firmly believe there are people who truly need/deserve a good and proper thrashing sometimes. Pain and discomfort are incredibly effective teachers. They have worked quite well for millions of years since the dawn of Man.

arakish's picture
@Tin-Man

@Tin-Man

No apologies need to be requested from me friend.

One thing I hold true in my heart is this quote I picked out of a book I have:

"Bullies always get bullied themselves. They always get a taste of their own bitter medicine sooner or later." - Kailin Gow, Bitter Frost

rmfr

arakish's picture
I posted this another thread,

I posted this another thread, but wanted to include it here with a little embellishment.

Everyone should quit thinking the way they do. This how everyone should be thinking:

male = female = human = female = male

Everything is equal, regardless.

I mean, what the fuck? I have even dated a transgender just a few years ago. She used to be a he. And SHE was a delightful person. Hell, if I had not moved from the east to the west, I'd still date her again.

Thus, Terminal Dogmatism, go to hell. I am beginning to think you are nothing more than an absolutist. Quit hiding behind that atheist mask. Just admit you are an asshole.

Mods: Sorry for the ad hominem attack. I am currently chastising myself for this. However, I cannot keep it bottled up any longer...

rmfr

Flamenca's picture
@Arakish, bravo! And this

@Arakish, bravo! And this thread is full of ad hominems, mine included, because this.... guy (I will avoid the ad hom) is so full of... (another one skipped) that drives anyone up the wall. So the mods would have to ban us all I think...

Terminal Dogma's picture
Was it you who just posted

Was it you who just posted women are superior, now we are all equal. Which one is it.

Flamenca's picture
Ohhhh, that's so outrageously

Ohhhh, that's so outrageously false and dishonest! Quote me when I said that, @TD!!!

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