The Purpose of the HOLY BIBLE is to turn a mortal man into an Immortal like JESUS CHRIST who was killed but resurrected after 3 days and the same shall be repetition just prior to His return back that has been described by CHRIST in His Revelation 11 as proof.
Therefore a repented sinner is an Immortal who might demonstrate Immortality, if any Atheists wants to see it then they can prepare the world to know about the Immortality claim by the witnesses of CHRIST and act as per Revelation 11:5 on NTA's in the vicinity of the whole world.
In such an action against NTA's there must be a repercussions that would prove either God of the Bible exist or does not exist, so why do Atheists wait for the evidence of GOD?
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Hi, Peter. Please consider this: The Bible is commonly available and the various denominational messages are all available. The stories of hell and all of its misery are well known to every human in the western world, along with the stories of a loving creator who yearns for a relationship with man and that this creator went so far as to sacrifice his own son to save us. All of this is open and available for everyone. You must recognize that no one wants to spend eternity being tortured in a lake of fire. No one wants to ignore a loving being who loves us and wants us to spend an eternity in paradise. So of course we have considered the Bible and the gospel of Jesus. Think about it for a moment. Every curious person has. Here is what we find: A book that was written in early Palestine by individuals who did not know what is common knowledge now. They did not know that the earth is one of several rocky planets orbiting an ordinary star, that our star is one of billions in an ordinary galaxy, and that our planet is billions of years old. Peter, I could go on and on about what the Bible is incorrect about. Again, no one wants to burn in hell forever, so just about everyone in this forum has deeply considered your position. The Bible is demonstrably incorrect about essentially every factual assertion that it makes. The Bible is not correct. Now, is it possible to rule out an invisible being that is magic, exists outside of time and space, and listens to our inner thoughts? No. But a being lkke that would have known what humans know today. You care deeply about life, that is clear. You are smart and well spoken. You no doubt make careful, analytical decisions about every matter in life except one: God. You likely believe it would be sinful to do so, and perhaps even be the temptation of the devil to do so. Because of that you won't subject your faith to the power of your critical thinking ability. If you could allow yourself a single hour to step back from your faith and consider all of the evidence, you would be stunned. Lastly I will say this: if God is real, knowing Him would be the most important thing that any person could do in this life. Nothing else would compare. Not food or family or pleasure or pain would compare. It would be urgent to understand what that God wants. I and many others realize this. We have carefully considered it and can plainly see that there isn't a god. Of course paradise would be nice, but wanting to believe something does not make it real. And the very book that you trust in is factually incorrect, and is also desperately cruel. If you could consider it for just a moment you would realize that you are in a human sacrifice cult. You want me to see the light. I want you to see the light. At least one of us is wrong. I've considered your arguments. I am asking you to consider mine. You're smart and caring but have misapprehended the nature of reality. I urge you to read up on what is scientifically provable, watch the brightest Christians on earth debate atheists on Youtube, and be a fair and impartial judge in the way you are with every other decision in life.
Thank you Truett,
For the consideration of the Bible & Gospel of JESUS and also my views. The reality is that the Bible & its messages are all available but still, fact isn't known to the world due to the lack of understanding, especially when comes to western understandings of the Bible. What did you find from the Bible has not been understood by you people which I can simply prove.
The BIBLE was written by people inspired by GOD and apply to all times but all those things are not applicable to one particular time as our time or someone, therefore you should have to focus on Bible pertaining to your time, so as to understand the whole Bible is correct, issue is that you take all those mentioned in the Bible while failed to notice biblical things that apply to your time which prompt you & like minded to misunderstand the Bible. See, you take modern knowledge & apply to the past biblical matters but why don't you take the same modern knowledge and apply to the biblical things that apply to the modern times?
In regard to the age of earth that the Bible didn't say how old it is? & it's not necessary to know about it but it might be understandable if you study population estimations that would prove man was here on this earth just 6000 years before and begun a journey on a trouble sea. Therefore Bible is not incorrect as you think but you understood the Bible incorrectly and the Bible offers so many explanations and also a demonstration in line with what JESUS did back then so as to prove that there's God of the Bible exist but unfortunately Atheists are deliberately ignore it and arguing based on western theology which's not authentic when comes to Biblical Christianity which's not founded based on beliefs or faith but based on Proof and Evidence.
Here's an explanation, how do Atheists misunderstand the Bible, even JESUS didn't ask anybody to believe in Him but instructed to be a witnesses, if I say like this then you might go to verses like John 3:16 or John 6:29 etc., and counter me but if you look its context, it's known that those sort of words JESUS spoke during the Pre Pentecostal scenario which has become invalid, therefore if anyone is believing in JESUS then he's bound to become a witness of JESUS, simply believing so many years is not the teachings of the Holy Bible, there're numerous Atheists who were once Christians but remained to be a believer for long years without recognise the fact & need to become a witnesses that prompted them to give up their position and turned to Atheism, it's their misunderstandings, thus there's no incorrect in the Bible but incorrect in peoples.
Also, be it known to you that I'm not writing to you being a believer or having a faith which has become an obsolete when the moment I became a witness of JESUS, however I was a sinner, believer, then a serious believer and now I'm a witness of JESUS in accordance with the NT, therefore if you talk to me thinking that I'm a believer or man of faith then you would be absolutely false and what I'm saying is also not possible for you to hear from any western Christians. Because I have evidence of God so as to testify, when I compare your evidence with mine then that's not at all an evidence but simply an assertions brought out without any basis.
God wants His creations to be under His control at the same time God cant impose His wills since men have a capability to choose what's best and if he choose worst then he has to face the consequences. Though men rebelled against God but still God shows His mercy and compassion but everything has it own limitations that has to be noted. Thus GOD exist and execute His plans accordingly. God wants us to believe in Him as a start up to establish a contact with Him because men are alienated from God, therefore, believe is an invisible entity function in brain that leads to see, know and understand God as a result of believes, thereafter of course believe is not necessary, an invisible faculty only can see, know and understand an invisible God as Iron only sharpens Iron.
JESUS, being a son of man was sacrificed as a ransom for sin committed by men and it was only one sacrifice capable to cover entire sins and it's not cultish rituals, but the blood is a vital component plays vital role in human relations, take for example: Young boy and girl approaches each other there's an attraction and sense of sexual desire appears because of their different bloodline, if they're from same bloodline like brother & sister of a same family then there's no such attraction and sense of sexual desires, because of the same bloodline, thus blood of JESUS was shed so as to eradicate these sort of sexual desires which's rooted from Satan & Devil who built his kingdom and lives in the lives of men, therefore sacrifice of JESUS was a great act so as to get rid of sinful life and to have a joyful life for ever.
However if you're not interested to listen and understand the reality of the Bible, you are welcome to choose your way but if you say it's a human sacrifice cult then I have rights to prove that you're false.
Thanks that you considered mine and I was happy to consider your assertions but find it's full of false and misunderstanding. However I don't like these to be a contentious issue that's why I made a simple challenge so as to prove GOD of the Bible existence the same manner JESUS did back then. Though I have tremendous explanations as proof that's scientifically provable but what sort of scientific proof would you accept? You have been watching so many debates of brightest Christians with Atheists on youtube but still those debates haven't produced any sort of concrete results as a matter of fact. Because Christians who debate with Atheists are again believers who have no evidence and there're not authorised to do any sort of ministry of JESUS, the need of the world is a testimony of GOD, which's only possible with witnesses of JESUS as New Testament Activists.
I have approached Atheists Republic demanding a slot of time, so as to participate in their meetings by presenting my case of arguments which's totally different from western theological approach and component to prove the existence of God and if that's not understandable then I would also make a challenge so as to test 7 verify by Atheists as I described above but nobody responded yet, that's why I share my cases and challenge in your forum.
Thanks for understanding again.
the bible is a fallible book, you can`t rely on it, And tell me just what does being a witness curtail? either you believe and have faith or you don`t.It`s as simple as that Peter.
Bible is infallible my friend, simply you haven't understand that doesn't make it fallible. The purpose of the Bible is turn mortal man into an Immortal so as to demonstrate GOD who indwells in such an Immortal man as of CHRIST. I can explain.,
What's believe?
Believe is acceptance of something as true without evidence.
If you look at BIBLE, JESUS said so many times people to believe in Him and in God but when He was about to ascend to heaven He said to His disciples to be a WITNESSES that mean, being a believer they're not suppose to embark any sort of His ministry, therefore a believer can become a witness. Thus His word in regard to believe becomes invalid.
What's witness?
A person sees an event, typically police seek a witness to the crime.
Now, JESUS asked Christian to be a witnesses in Acts 1:8. What really makes a believer to be a witness? Though Apostles were with JESUS & witness to the events that JESUS did but still JESUS asked these men to be wait in Jerusalem so as to receive the Holy Spirit, thereafter only they would become a witnesses of JESUS.
But Now, almost after 2000 years and Christians are called believers which's contrary to the witnesses, why do these people Christians are called believers? They're called believers because they don't have the reception of the Holy Spirit into their physical body. But in reality they're suppose to be witnesses wherein the Holy Spirit must have entered into their physical body but it didn't happen, thus they're called just believers.
Whereas in my case it's not like that, I was a sinner, then a believer, then I became a serious believer and now I'm a witness, because of the Holy Spirit that entered into my physical body, since then my position became a witness of JESUS, therefore only a witness of JESUS might testify that JESUS is God and the Holy Bible is infallible.
You demand a proof of what I'm saying, when the Holy Spirit indwells then a person would become like JESUS that mean he's an Immortal, therefore if anybody wants proof then they can try to harm an Immortal, since he's an Immortal as temple of God, no deceases like cancer or accidents or even weapons destroy, if Atheists wants proof then they can try what I'm saying so as to come to know GOD of the Bible exist.
How does the Holy Spirit ENTER into the human body?
There's a Spirit in the body, if you don't accept Spirit, then you can consider Consciousness or mind as these entities you cant deny, so if the consciousness of man cease or EXIT from the physical body then immediately the Spirit of GOD or Consciousness of GOD can ENTER into the physical body and keep it alive as this's how the Holy Spirit entered once into Mary and JESUS was born and the same happened into me, therefore I'm a witness of JESUS CHRIST. There's no time gap between these two events as exit of the Spirit of man from the body & Enter of the Holy Spirit into the body. Now, I can claim before 2000 years I exist b/c the age of the Holy Spirit is immediately applicable to me, though physically I'm 50 yrs old as this's how JESUS claimed before Abraham was I'm in John 8:58.
This might be simplified, if you look at the computer which attached to the UPS, some point of time, power from the main source disconnect but power from UPS enter into the computer and keep it alive as there's no time gap in these two events as power disconnects & power from UPS connects as there's no time gap as there's no year between 2000 & 2001.
People invented computers and compares to men but unable to invent an UPS for men like of computers have UPS, but we as Christians invented it, that's a reason we're called witnesses of Christ. Therefore believe and faith have become obsolete when comes to me.
Thanks for understanding.
This is your 4th or 5th thread you made I kinda lost count. You made the same arguments each time with little to no difference. No offence but this is spam. It is even written in all caps.
I just made a challenge you & like minded should have to respond if you want an evidence to be seen b/c you lack understanding of my evidences.
Peter prove your god is real without your bible. Give everyone testable evidence for your god.
I'm an Immortal man invulnerable even to weapons, you can test & verify.
This is the brain on religion.
Yes, that's where every knowledge emanates if you're a man.
Peter, have you ever considered doing stand-up comedy?
Do what I say as I'm an Immortal man so as to see GOD of the Bible exist. You demand evidence if I provide then you make comedy instead of testing. You're garbage guy.
Your very funny, unintentionally but hilarious just the same : )
@Peter...."Holy Bile"
LOL. That's very funny, Peter. Look up "bile" in your dictionary. It really sums all the hate and anger in that crappy book you worship. That's what I'm going to call it from now on.
Since I've had my gallbladder removed, do I have less holy bile then?
I'm not surprised if an Idiot call my BIBLE like that, I'm not worry about it.
Peter: Are you threatening us again? Challenging us to try and hurt you? What is your silly game?
I'm challenging you to test & verify GOD who indwells me & made me Immortal. Yes, I'm a threat to the those who say there's no God exist.
Peter there is no immortality you live just once and then you turn to dust. This foolish absurd post of yours above does not take the real living into account.Life is what you make of it, Stop praying to nothing and start doing.
There's immortality which you can test & verify, I'm interested to your empty words but action, is it possible?
Revelations 11:5 - " If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who tries to harm them must die."
This the challenge that Peter and his Prince of Peace submits to us. Do not invite him to your kids birthday party.
Except the last syntax everything you said is correct. Good, keep it up.
Billions of people have worshiped thousands of gods and they swore that theirs were the only real ones. They are dead and forgotten just like your imaginary deity.
My GOD resurrected from death after 3 days there's no other gods and if you want evidence then I'm ready to repetition resurrection from death in 3.5days. What would like to do?
It is rare to find someone who can contradict themselves inside the same sentence, but Peter has a gift for self contradiction and managed to pull it off!
Peter, Atheist Republic is on online community of people who live across the globe. There is no meeting place or headquarters or gathering of Atheist Republic members. You're not getting an answer to your request to come before us because we are never in one place at one time.
And Peter, even if there was a meeting I would not want someone there that thought that they were currently immortal. Try this: stub your toe really hard on something on the way to your bathroom tonight. Or lightly prick your finger with a sewing needle. Hopefully that will persuade you that you're not immortal. But Peter, here is the tragic likelihood: you will believe you are immortal until you're dead, then won't be alive to learn the terrible lesson that you are mistaken. Jihadist suicide bombers' faith is just as strong and passionate and certain as yours is. They are convinced that they'll suddenly appear in heaven with lots of virgins. They give their lives in sincere and honest faith, and are not alive to learn that they were mistaken. I don't want to subject myself to the risk of being around someone who has so misunderstood reality. You are an intelligent man who has a current delusion about reality. And thinking that you are immortal qualifies as a severe delusion. I mean no insult. Reality is beautiful, and you are missing it. I feel for you.
Thanks my friend, My request stands until Atheist Republic or you people convene such a meeting so as to explain and demonstrate God of the Bible existence. But you're terribly misunderstand my points by comparing me with Jihadists who are terrorists and kill others but I'm challenging those sort of weapons never destroy or kill me, if so, how do you answer your clear misunderstandings?
Simply I asked you to test & verify my Immortality claim, again that's in line with what had happened to my LORD, JESUS CHRIST back then, that too you are unable to understand certain realities of the Holy Bible then I have no option than to make such a challenge with a precedents exists in the Bible so as to make both God and Bible are true.
Finally, why should I test for your cause? Is that I need to proof of Immortality, it's you needed. You refute my Immortality then it's your job to find out if I'm an Immortal or mortal, i can only give you a space to test & verify.
If you're in the war field then you have to fight to the end, if you risk yourself or killed or whatever may be that you have to face the consequences or else why do you come to the war? what do you say there's no evidence for God? You pretty well aware to talk but unaware to act?
It's not fair on you & part of Atheist communities. I'm committed an I'll fight till the end to prove that there's GOD of the Bible exist, that's what life is all about. I wants to get rid of all that cruel and horrible happens in the world that must be end and I know that it's possible only through the Holy Bible.
Whereas you live without a responsibility to get rid of this horrible world but focus on your present life which's selfishness and rejecting every aspect of GOD has its own consequences. I'm so sorry about you 7 your communities.
Anyone who fights a war to prove he is correct is acting stupidly. One person physically defeating another person proves nothing except that the winner is better at harming people.
I consider you dangerous and irrational, and you have your delusion to thank for that. Wake up, Peter.
US army men fights 24X7 to establish justice somewhere in the world, is it stupidity? Go to Pentagon and says to the Chief of staff. If you want to prove there's no God exist then you have to harm me then u would know GOD EXIST.
I'm dangerous to those who says there's no God exist, yes. You demand evidence for GOD, if I provide then you won't find a way to test & verify, instead you say that I'm delusional etc.,that's what irrational, my friend. You have to wake up to the reality of God.
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