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The odds, after all, were in your favor. ;)
Should have made it a $100 based off my history. Missed opportunity there bro
nah, he just went for five bucks on day one. But one day three he did a "double or nothing" bet.
No one is waiting for you to answer, it is obvious you have no intention of giving honest answers. It is also obvious you don't see what that implies about your beliefs, and since they're your beliefs then of course no one can know what they are. Especially since you already claimed repeatedly that they involve subjective interpretation of archaic religious texts.
It's always struck me as risible and contemptible that theists will ignore what their religious texts actually say, and "interpret" them to mean what they want them to say, but still cling to and espouse the worst bigotry contained in them word for fucking word.
@SFT
I think you are a coward, you are to scared to answer Sheldon's questions.
Then please answer instead of being smug. There are a few questions that Sheldon keep asking you since a lot of precedent threads.
@Searching for truth
If a lion does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep, what do you think of Muhammad, who according to Muslim history, killed people whose opinions he disliked?
If a lion does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep, what do you think of Allah, who according to Muslim dogma, tortures people in this life and the hereafter whose opinion it dislikes?
It is of concern when hundreds of millions believe it is acceptable to kill and torture others for their beliefs.
An omnipotent and omnipresent being has not been observed to exist in even a single location. Therefore, Allah does not exist.
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"The Bible approves of baby rapers."
Careful, Breezy will be along talking context if you keep this up.
@ Sheldon
No no, its a metaphor for, for...ummm NO..its an allegory for god's infinite mercy ...
How many of the stuff of the book of Revelation is metaphoric? I think, for some, that is is a cheap excuse to not confess that they really want to see billions of people suffering an dbeing thrown in a lake of fire...
You're undoubtedly right, after all religions seem to have and have always had a dread fascination with immolating anyone that disagreed with their beliefs.
You're sure about that, i mean they are the ones possesing OBJECTIVE MORALITY...
Every time I’ve glanced at the title of this OP, I see STFU instead of SFT.
It might as well say STFU for all the value he's added to it. If he's really flattered by this thread then that's doubly sad.
I invite him to offer something tangible though. However I hold little hope he will start giving candid answers to difficult questions now, as that's clearly not why he's here.
So either his religion has no answers to such questions, or he's a very ill-informed adherent.
Or both of course.
SFT, is it ever moral for a 50+ year old man to rape a nine year old child?
If the Koran is so inerrant why do Muslims expend so much time and energy trying to silence and even kill critics of it?
Because we want to hear what you have to say about the completely legitimate questions asked of you about your pathetic Book of Lies.
Answer the questions of the OP:
And of course, you already know the answers. You are nothing more that a Yellow-Bellied, Spineless COWARD.
From this post.
Oh, and I have all the eveidence I need.
Then please provide it. Remember, if your evidence cannot be verified or falsified, then it is not evidence.
You are more than welcome to provide evidence Allah (specifically) does not exist.
Typical Religious Absolutist response. You cannot provide any evidence, thus you switch the burden of proof. Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit non ei qui negat.
I want to see your evidence. Put up or shut the hell up about having evidence.
And learn how to spell.
rmfr
Eloquently put, and of course all very true.
@ Arakish
Aaaand a big welcome back Arakish. Missed your bark.......
Old Man: Missed your bark.......
And wait until I start shedding it....
rmfr
Welcome back arakish.
Thanks brother. Good to be back. Just don't know how long. Read the "What Happened to Arakish? Y'all have asked" over in the Atheist Hub.
rmfr
So much for SFT's objective morality if he thinks it is ok for a man in his 50's to rape nine year old children. Or does he think it's not moral?
He appears too scared to answer either way. If he's a lion it's the cowardly one from The Wizard of Oz. Though it appears he lacks the moral fibre to tackle his cowardice.
Then again many Christian priests share that view that raping children perfectly moral. So maybe raping children is an example of the objective morality he claims can come only from superstition?
His deity, if it were real, would be standing by and letting children be raped after all.
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This is the problem in a nutshell. SFT is running away from the question because either his objective morality thinks it's ok to rape nine year old children, or his most venerated prophet didn't grasp raping nine year old children was immoral. Or of course his prophet new it was immoral and did it anyway. Best of all his deity didn't even punish him.
He has tried in the past to hide behind context of what was moral in that epoch, then got torn a new one over his contradictory claim that his religious beliefs are based on objective morality. It seems even he could see that "right then, but wrong now" didn't support his specious claim.
Since then the cowardly lion has run away without even trying to answer, which as always speaks volumes.
I dunno guys, Muhammad was just misunderstood....you see the 9 year old wanted him to rape her! It all makes sense when you know the rape was consensual.
I realise you're being facetious, but I have actually encountered theists who have used that very argument. I generally ask if they think this makes it morally acceptable, if they would rape a nine year old child if they thought it had consented.
You can see where this would go, either yes and the claim for ANY morality evaporates, or no and their claim for objective morality seems to involve venerating a prophet who raped nine year old children.
Usually by now I'm being called Islamophobic, another line of evasive ad hominem often used. SFT has taken a similar tack and refused to answer any of my posts directly. It's an odd truth that has to silence any individual. I suppose I should be lucky I live in a country where the rights of the individual are held more important than the religious bellies of others, it wasn't always the case, and ironically the UK has a state religion.
Ha, it was a joke in poor taste anyway. If we take anything from the Quran, I believe it is that times have changed very much from the past, and things that may have been okay back then have no place in civilized society today. I personally do not condemn Muhammed, per se, I just absolutely refuse to promote him as a good role model among other things. People can do great things, and terrible things in their lifetime, and no matter how good of a person you are, one or two terrible things can completely derail your reputation. Not that Muhammed is anything like Jesus purports to be, anyway. Maybe we should post some nice cartoons of Muhammed, see how long it takes to get death threats?
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