beginning and middle

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Roberto Rayo's picture
beginning and middle

I have been an atheist for about a year now.Over a year actually. My transition to becoming an atheist started as followed. Their is this famous quote by Marcus arulleous; I am not sure if that's how you spell his name. But it goes something like this if their are God's and they are just they will not care how devout you are. If their are God's and they are not all good you will not want to worship them. If their are no God's you will live on in the memories of your loved ones. For a long time I based my beliefs on that. Later on I started to identify my self as an atheist but I was always worried about being converted back. Now I am confident that my beliefs as sound. I was just wondering if anyone has had a similar conversion story as mine.

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mysticrose's picture
I'm still agnostic but I do

I'm still agnostic but I do consider myself as a humanist and having god or not is not that important as long as we do good in all our actions.

Jeff Vella Leone's picture
I do remember me thinking

I do remember me thinking that when I was doubting my faith.

like , if there is god that trully loves me, he would definetly forgive me, whatever my sins were, including, not believing in him.

i think I was 12 or so at that time and this line of thought lasted a week or so.

Then it turned more about if I was doing the right thing or not.
From then on the answer was always that I was doing the right thing but it took years to gather enough knowledge to be 100% sure of my position.

Spewer's picture
"But it goes something like

"But it goes something like this if their are God's and they are just they will not care how devout you are."

Reminds me of this:

"The worship thing is kind of strange... Because, quite frankly, I would think that the people who would, perhaps, be most deserving of worship would never ask or demand it. I mean, to me, that automatically disqualifies you. If you're asking or demanding, expecting people to worship you, I think that disqualifies you."

Matt Dillahunty

Jeff Vella Leone's picture
Yea Matt made a point there,

Yea Matt made a point there, but it is even more basic then that, close to the point that Matt made earlier.(14:38)

Worship in itself is a flawed concept.

What would justify worshiping anybody or anything at all?

It comes from the idea of pleasing some one or something and showing your acceptance of how inferior and devout you are.

These are ideas that come when you have some kind of 'dictator in throne' that does not love you and respect you enough to consider you his equal.

We have children that we love, do we expect that they worship us every Sunday, just because we created them and love them?

Even if he/it never asked for worship, he has to respect you enough to stop such an evil act.

mysticrose's picture
Religious people wants their

Religious people wants their god to pay tribute to their devotion.

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