Best argument against religious people?

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Andy Boustany's picture
Best argument against religious people?

Simply saying,

1. Any religion is made by man thus God, Odin, Thrall, Draven, Ragnaros etc is made by man.

2. Mainstream religions are control systems set up by the world financial elite as one part of their many control systems inputted for the humans of this world.

3. Religion creates violence, by creating separation, it creates a manipulation of the mind, aka makes you think in the worst way, it makes you irrational, it prevents you from discovering things and inventing things, its evil and they know their evil, for example education was restricted towards high members of the church back in the day.

4. Nice quote of the day: “When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.” You see, if one day we all come and we start opening our eyes, we can come to realize our potential in this life, imagine the things we can create once were at our ultimatum of awakening and consciousnesses, its a dream I would like to be reality... that day. holy sh!t. <3

5. Religion creates Ego for the human making him think he is different than the rest of the Living Society of animals and plants etc, while in reality everything is made of matter and all creates are made of the same elements, this ego has sprung up different forms of manipulation, thus making it almost impossible to eradicate from the religiously indoctrinated... smart evil men, I want to know who they are, and their smart motives of attaining wealth from the blindness of people is disgusting.

6. I was a christian, because my parents forced me into the indoctrination and I once argued with an athiest back then, a good friend of mine, and now as I look back and i talk to him, I keep murmuring to him about how much of a dumbass I was to argue, and I see arguments with religious people as levels.

Level 1: They will call you crazy because of the way you think, and say its "wrong".
Level 2: They'll yell at you for dissing their religion and not "respecting". --> Mates I respect you having a religion but not the religion itself because it is evil by itself and by what its done
Level 4: Oh Andy, how can you say this, you will go to hell! the devils will burn you! --> The devils are already here... the corrupt are living making trillions of dollar from their own financial system, the devils aka the creator of the paper money and the evil rothschild family.. and the ancestors of corrupt royalty.
Level 5: They will call you and threaten to kill you if you "insult" their religion one more time, I love how they always contradict their own beliefs while they can't even follow a damn thing it says! most of them haven't even read 10% of the book, I got called and threatened, thank Odin i dealt with it, with undercover police agents and sh!t.


Green peace and sh!t.

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Rob's picture
Great post there Andy. I

Great post there Andy. I think the million dollar question is what is the best argument they have against someone who questions their beliefs. The answer to that question is none.

Trevor's picture
There are so many great

There are so many great things you can say to religious people that will have them seraching for answers that they cant ever give you. The list is almost endless.

Andy Boustany's picture
@Rob: Death to the non

@Rob: Death to the non belibers.

@Trevor: they are too enclosed and indoctrinated by their faith that they fail to see things as they are, I say at times, do you see a dog holding a bible? "Don't compare me to a dog" this is where the ego superiority kicks in. im comparing you to a creature who goes by his instincts rather than a somewhat developed thinking hub that we have, that unfortunately its at its disadvantage for the faithers.

James's picture
"Is God willing to prevent

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" Epicurus

SammyShazaam's picture
I've always loved that quote!

I've always loved that quote!

mysticrose's picture
We learn lessons in hard way,

We learn lessons in hard way, sadly lessons learned in grief are unforgettable and can make us better in terms of wisdom and experience. If god allows tribulation for us to experience, then maybe he just wanted us to learn lessons that we can't forget easily. If life is so good, then can consider that we have a god that is so good too watching over us, but what can it make us in then. It either can make us bored and less intellectual and we will just depend our whole life to the ways of god while god wanted us to gain wisdom.

SammyShazaam's picture
I like #4, your quote of the

I like #4, your quote of the day :)

As human's we're programmed to identify strongly and show higher levels of compassion, gratitude, trust, and other oxytocin induced emotions when around people which we view as similar to us than with people who are foreign to us. Very simple and understandable during primitive days (I'm talking pre-human primitive, this is the way rodents work), but as social networks grow, the gradient of familiarity needs to accommodate many more possibilities.

Our brain is pretty much built on the same systems as a lizard, but the world's gotten much more complicated than just sunning on rocks all day and eating bugs. In today's (since we got to walking primarily upright and stuff) world, we have created symbols to take the place of our instinctual drives. Long story short, religion is an identifier which transcends apparent genetic relation, and therefore we can use it to help predetermine our assumed levels of trust when encountering strangers, as birds, cats, and dogs do when treating animals within their species.

Of course, we know such assumptions are utter BS in actual life. But when you've got nothing else to go on... I'm sure you've seen people cling to it, and assume that certain people are good and trustworthy simply based on which Church they're giving money to.

efpierce's picture
I feel we should all just

I feel we should all just live and let live. I am siding for the religious by saying that, actually it is going against everything they are taught as they try to change and convert others to their particular form of religion. I don't choose to argue with anyone about their religious beliefs, it's not really worth it and the people who do are lesser in a sense if they go looking for that argument which, in most cases, they do.

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