Big population or not?

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Terminal Dogma's picture
I don't think anyone is

I don't think anyone is against immigration, read thread title.

Sushisnake's picture


None of us are against it, TDog, but the wider community have been taught to hate and fear immigrants for decades now- probably longer. Immigrants have been used as the bogeyman to distract the people from what the government/corporations are actually doing. The bogeyman's nationality changes, but never his character. He's always vicious. He's always a criminal. He always takes all the jobs/ all the welfare. He always travels in packs, he's always a gang member. He always rapes our women and bashes our men. He's the one who brings in the heroin and hooks our young people. I'm Australian and when I was a young woman, I was told the bogeyman was Asian- specifically Vietnamese. Now I'm told he's Middle Eastern or African- specifically Muslim.

Other forum members with a bit of age on them in other countries will tell you pretty much the same tale. The only thing that will differ will be their bogeyman's nationalities. Trump's BS about Mexicans isn't new- he's just capitalising on attitudes that were already there. They coach us to turn on each other, TDog. They've done it for a very long time. It stops us turning on them.

LogicFTW's picture
Your thread title talks

Your thread title talks population but the content of your post and most subsequent post talks about immigration.

Purely population wise, yes, economics likes more population, especially in the US as so much of it is dependent upon consumerism more people alive = more people buying things and making things. The US faces economic disaster much like Japan's if US birth rate continues to fall. Something that only immigration could really stem. As many 2nd generation plus women are not interested in having 3 plus babies.

Global health wise (both the planet and humans) could certainly do with billions less humans. Capitalism may or may not be the best system of economics devised so far, but we should, and need to, come up with better. Perhaps capitalism can continue to thrive in a mostly virtual world, where endless growth is only limited by how efficient processors are and perhaps even with very efficient processing, how much electricity we can muster in an efficient manner. Something that can be greatly helped along by giving everyone 10 gigabit internet access allowing all processing to be done on highly efficient processing farms.

In the real world with rising populations and dwindling resources pure capitalism can not deal with an end to growth scenario and capitalism highly encourages constant growth. Imagine Japan's economic stagnation, but much worse, and on a global scale, so there is no escape.

mickron88's picture
"Your thread title talks

"Your thread title talks population but the content of your post and most subsequent post talks about immigration."

actually LFTW

its his version of arakish's "brain fart"
he just borrowed the concept to arakish...

you know what they call this? its "Xenophobia"
fear of migrants..


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