No heaven - no hell

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Tin-Man's picture
@Samana

@Samana

Howdy there, Sam. Look, for what it's worth, if English is not your first language it is commendable that you are here attempting to have a discussion. And from what I can tell, it seems to be a somewhat interesting topic. Unfortunately, whatever translator you might be using is turning much of what you say into complete gibberish. As you may have noticed, this is causing a considerable amount of confusion and misunderstanding. Just a suggestion, but you might want to consider finding a different translation program if you are able. Speaking for myself, I can somewhat-sorta-kinda follow some of what you are trying to say, but - honestly - there is just way too much there that can be too easily misinterpreted. Just a suggestion. Oh, and welcome to the AR. Happy to have you with us.

Samana Johann's picture
For one with virtuous nature,

For one with virtuous nature, always respecting of what is worthy of it, for thing increase: longlife, beauty/honor, happiness and strenght.

May one just make use of what is supportive for ones longtime ease and may one be not mad if not taking part of your nutrition and ways to gain.

Grinseed's picture
My unique life is still here

My unique life is still here for the time being, 20 years absolute maximum to go.
Apparently I only deny your facts.
Among my facts is the reality that heaven and hell do not exist. I accept this without fear. I have no childish need to declare everyone else is wrong or damned.

Samana Johann's picture
So you havn't? As well as no

So you havn't? As well as no fear that it coukd be otherwise as just believed. And given the immeasurable span of time, great if remembering some moments of some 20 years... or forgot and deny them as well?

Cognostic's picture
I agree with all the

I agree with all the gibberish comments. The OP is just not making any sense. Perhaps if there was just one question succinctly stated, without all the explanation (which is confusing), you could get some relevant responses.

Samana Johann's picture
Seems to so un-real if no

Seems to so un-real if no senses get provoked. Yet the stronger the more pain. "Oh, if I would find ways in more refined spheres!"

arakish's picture
Yeah, and you got to love its

Yeah, and you got to love its avatar. Just as blurry as its brain. If it has a brain.

Hell, for all we know it could be the first SI computer program messing with us. (SI = simulated intelligence)

rmfr

Samana Johann's picture
It's not the object that

It's not the object that makes a certain perseption blury but the lack of skill to find the right focus, e.g. proper attention, attention of what gives birth to arising and decay.

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Re: "It's not the object that

Re: "It's not the object that makes a certain perseption blury but the lack of skill to find the right focus, e.g. proper attention, attention of what gives birth to arising and decay."

Aw, hell! I think I actually LIKE that. *chuckle*

Tin-Man's picture
I hate to admit it, but after

I hate to admit it, but after reading back through some of these I think Mr. Johann's style is starting to grow on me. It's somehow tweeking my brain in really strange ways. Is that a bad thing? lol

Samana Johann's picture
When having recognized that

When having recognized that there is actually a path to escape, no. If holding a short walk on a comfortable street as the aim, yes, since the trace not knowing well will be possible lost soon again.

mudita so far

Neither is it a bad thing, but wise, to believe and desire after more sublime and seek association with it, by giving food into it. Nor is it a bad thing to dislike and avoid the lower, abound what ever associations and fear the fall for it. Yet this base is still "just" the path, comfortable, leading to independency and release.

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