The Problem of Evil

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The Problem of Evil

I heard a man say that if we take the evil and suffering of the world to mean God cannot exist, then we must also take the good and joy of the world to mean that God must exist. Since both exist, then they cannot be valid premises about the existence of God.

In a more visual way this is what he's saying:

Premise 1: God is all Good, Omniscient, Omnipotent
Premise 2: Evil cannot exist under first premise.
Premise 3: Good will exist under the first premise.
Premise 4: Evil exists.
Premise 5: Good exists.

Conclusion: Premises 2 and 3 are contradictions, and therefore are invalid conditionals for Premise 1.

I personally agree with this conclusion. It is not uncommon to hear Christians point to the good and beautiful or the miraculous as evidence that their God exists, just like it is not uncommon for Atheists to point at the evil and suffering of the world as proof that God doesn't exist. As a result, pointing at the current state of the world is not a good tool to measure the existence of God.

What do you guys think?

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The problem is with "Premise
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Your response is good, and it
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john6b:
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I see what you are saying,
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It's a lot harder than you
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it is really easy:
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Here's what I've come up with
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All 4 of your latest
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Much better! But how about
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That works nicely because it
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Another problem is getting
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Agreed. The only good thing
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if you draw a logical
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Right, but this argument
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John6b - "but this argument
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Haha relax, we're basically
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"I heard a man say that if we
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That's the issue, there are a
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"That's the issue, there are
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Your answers are good so far.
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"Your answers are good so far
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I think Travis replied well
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The definition of omnipotence
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BAH :( Omnipotent does not
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But i have to admit that it
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I forgot to mention something
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The bible both claims that
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