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@Jon the Catholic: "it encroaches the kid's right to be raised by both his/her parents."
But the ban on divorce also applies to childless couples, doesn't it? How do you justify that?
I agree with you that the children's rights should take precedence over the parents' rights. In my opinion, children have rights. Parents only have obligations. But abusive relationships are in a different category. It should be possible to get away from violent, abusive spouses/parents.
Hell no. We don't need more laws to regulate personal morality.
I don't think it has anything to do with law and is a civil/moral matter.
Simple as that really...
Aren't all laws a reflection of civil/moral maters? Indeed that's why laws differ between cultures and nations, because they're each based on their particular moral ideas.
@John 6
"Cheating on your spouse is the equivalent to domestic abuse in my opinion."
This is exactly how Philippine law sees the issue. In fact, under the family code, if a man/woman catches their spouse in the sexual act, and in the moment of anger, they kill their spouse and/or the other party, they aren't held liable for murder. Kinda like equating it to self defense.
Note: However, it must also be noted that together with all other laws in the Philippines, the Filipino people live as though these laws don't exist.
I do not believe adultery is a crime requiring government intervention. My first marriage ended due to "bilateral' adultery. The adultery was just a symptom. We have enough fascist laws policing personal behaviors. We need less.
'Bilateral adultery' - lol - I'll let my lawyer know.
No. I mean maybe if it's a breach of contract or something. Mothereffin' shit thing to do to someone, unless you have a mutual agreement or you tell the person you're leaving them BEFORE cheating on them.
Adultery is a risk you take being in a monogamous relationship. No reason to involve our overburdened court systems with disgruntled spouses. Get counseling or get divorced. Life goes on!
You can say that about everything. If I build a convenience store, I do so knowing the risk of robbery. Therefore I shouldn't involve the police or take it to court.
That's exculpatory language.
Wow, John. That is a really good analogy. I'm ashamed I didn't think of anything like that at all. Very nice point.
Theft is victimization. Adultery more of a blow to one's pride. If I have a store and I get robbed then the courts are my only recourse besides vigilante violence. Adultery might hurt your feelings but otherwise no torte. I advise you insecure cuckolds to put on your grown up panties and deal with it.
You're kidding, right? Do you know how many people get bent out of shape over being cheated on? Way more than get upset about having stuff stolen. In law enforcement I have seen some serious vigilante justice over infidelity, so you actually make a good argument for allowing justice through the courts.
And what do you mean by "cuckolds"? Is this some derogatory term you are using to try to shame people who have been cheated on? Cuckold has recently been popularized by the alt-right as an insult, insinuating that a male person who's female partner has cheated on them is somehow not a man because he can't control his woman. Is that what you are saying, here?
If you get bent out of shape over being cheated on that is the limit of the torte. You get bent out of shape. Deal with it. If you resort to violence because you were cheated on then that becomes a separate crime.
As far as "controlling" women, my advice pertains to women and gays/ lesbians as well.
I do not give a shit about republicans redefinition/ current use of the word "cuckold"! I meant it in the classical sense. I directed my criticism to males who feel they need cops to protect them from adultery. Whiny babies!
"Cuckold" in the classical sense means only one thing: the husband of an adulterer. The most famous example I can think of is Prince Charles. The female equivalent is a cuckquean. Hillary Clinton is the perfect example.
A cuckold has always been regarded as a joke, right back to Chaucer and Shakespeare and beyond. In the King Arthur legend, Arthur was cuckolded by Guinevere and Lancelot. A cuckquean is more likely to be the object of sympathy.
In these days of gender equality, perhaps we should refer to them both as "cuckpersons" and subject them both to equal amounts of ridicule or sympathy, depending on our point of view.
Wonderful, Algebe! Take a standing ovation!!
That was a very nice, clinical definition Algebe gave us of the term. So which is it? You are using the term as an insult and you know exactly what it means. So are you invoking a gender neutral insult to all genders who have been cheated on, or the classic insult only used to call males a laughing stock? Don't fucking backpedal like a little coward and say, " oh my oh my, it's only as something else that I meant it," because that's being a pussy.
I had someone cheat on me (I deserved it, but that's not important). Are you saying I am a joke and not a "real man"? Am I somehow worthy of derision? Am I somehow a weaker human being? Do you doubt that I have the training and experience to shove whatever macho-shithead notion of masculinity you have right back down your throat? And really, do you think that would matter? Would it make one person right and the other wrong? Why are you so fixated on gender-specific insults?
C.M, I don't want to get into the middle of your fight, and I understand your anger, but shouldn't 'pussy' count also as a gender-specific insult? Because I don't like when someone calls a man a 'pussy' meaning 'coward'... I hope you understand my point as a woman.
I know you people from USA use that all the time, but it's inappropriate anyways.
Well not to get in the middle of the middle of the fight lol. If you find the word inappropriate that's fine, that's the point of using it, to offend someone. However I don't think gender should be brought into it. Both pussy and dick are derogatory terms. In fact the primary source of offensive words have always been related to the genitals of both genders. That is true across all languages, and all cultures.
Well, John, yes, but mostly female parts as negative and male parts as positive. Think of the words in Spanish for the genital parts:
female parts: "coñazo"= annoying
male parts: "es la polla" or "es cojonudo"=it's cool, "con un par de cojones"=with bravery.
Yes, you are absolutely right. That was a way of making my point. If you read my next post you will see I am not actually angry and was not being serious here, just trying to show how messed up it is to call people names right away when they don't know who you are. I have actually never really called someone that as an insult, it felt kind of dirty. But maybe I should make a different choice in words next time.
I have a big pet peeve about gender-based insults (which is what the person I was writing to used), I don't call women the b-word and I don't call men p-words. I actually don't like any insult that attacks something about a person which is beyond their control or not of their choice, like weight or being short or tall or blonde or brunette, things like that.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a super nice guy or anything, I just believe in fairness and equality.
And I do apologize if I offended you.
I would argue fairness is insulting both genders equally.
I get what you mean, but for me, I just don't see the point in insulting someone for something that is beyond their control.
CM, don't worry, none taken. But it seems pertinent to speak up, because you were accusing Chimp of using a gender-based insult...
And most of you are men, so from time to time, it's good to point these things out. xD
Ha, yes, we often tend to forget ourselves.
You tell 'em, girl!
You already admitted to having cheated on your wife. Calling me a whiny baby for my position is as predictable as the day being blue.
The question is why cops need to be involved.
Baloney. You enjoyed calling people cuckolds, you thought it made you look cool. Just admit it and move on. It's not that big of a deal and nobody's feelings are really hurt here. I'm just razzing you myself because I find it bizarre how easily people use insults when they are anonymous.
Having been both an cuckold and and adulterer I feel qualified to say "Brace up!". No cops are required. They would just make matters worse.
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