First post is about Hebrew slaves...
Exodus 21
““These are the laws you are to set before them: “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free. “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ then his master must take him before the judges. He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life. “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her.
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
“An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.”
Exodus 21:1-8, 20-21, 26-27 NIV
http://bible.com/111/exo.21.1-8,20-21,26-27.niv
As we read this "Direct law givin by god" what can we pull away from it?
1-god has no opposition to owning another human as property....
2-god allows you to enslave your fellow Hebrew for life if you give him a wife...
3- as a woman you are not free after serving 6 years
4- you are allowed to beat your slave for they are your property.
Under today's understanding of morality
Is god...
A) moral
B) immoral
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I think that the god of the holy bible is immoral. god is a monster.
Slaves, obey your masters
Thu, 11/02/2017 - 14:27 Permalink
xenoview "I think that the god of the holy bible is immoral. god is a monster."
Luckily it's a fictional monster.
amen
Under today's understanding, is God moral or immoral?
"Today's understanding" as in men's understanding, and just looking at this particular law in the book of exodus, I'd say B-God is immoral.
But beyond men's understanding, I'd say A. He is faithful and moral.
It's interesting how this chapter is picked to answer the question of whether or not God is moral, yet the title of the chapter is called:-Fair treatment of slaves.
I figure that masters and slaves are co-conspirators in ignorance.
I encourage Breezy to allay the impression he has given so far that he is dishonestly avoiding a candid objective discussion of this topic, by hiding behind the narrow parameters of the multiple thread OP's he has offered in order to avoid addressing what the bible actually says.
Otherwise the impression he has given as one who simply wants to dishonestly deny or avoid facts, in order to preach and proselytise, must be the impression that reflects his true motives.
As it says in Isaiah 14:1-2 (CEV) = "The Lord will have mercy on Israel and will let them be his chosen people once again. He will bring them back to their own land, and foreigners will join them as part of Israel. 2 Other nations will lead them home, and Israel will make slaves of them in the land that belongs to the Lord. Israel will rule over those who once governed and mistreated them."
According to the Jewish Babylonian Talmud each Jew will get 2,800 Gentile slaves in the afterlife.
Shabbath 32b = "Resh Lakish said: He who is observant of fringes will be privileged to be served by two thousand eight hundred slaves, for it is said, Thus saith the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations shall even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you, etc."
http://www.come-and-hear.com/shabbath/shabbath_32.html