If you had a world with only one book...
The Bible
And half of the world said The Bible was fiction.
And half of the wold said The Bible was factual.
Wouldn't the entire whole world say Jesus Christ is Lord IF EVERYBODY saw the book from THEIR own personal viewpoint instead of SOMEBODY ELSES personal viewpoint? In the Biblical Universe Jesus Christ is Lord
If you had a world with only one book...
The Hobbit
And half of the world said The Hobbit was fiction.
And half of the wold said The Hobbit was factual.
Wouldn't the entire whole world say Frodo Baggins is a Hobbit IF EVERYBODY saw the book from THEIR own personal viewpoint instead of SOMEBODY ELSES personal viewpoint? In The Hobbit Universe Frodo Baggins is a Hobbit.
But IF everybody saw it from SOMEBODY ELSES personal viewpoint they would all be arguing over whether it's fact or fiction - or if there were AT LEAST ONE selfish group which saw it from SOMEBODY ELSES personal viewpoint rather than THEIR OWN personal viewpoint. A destructive group rather than a creative group.
I spoke to an Atheist and he told me the Biblical Universe is our Universe and I asked him who told him that and he said The Bible told him. He believed The Bible and cherry picked just enough, by believing just enough, to allow him destroy The Bible as both a work of fiction and something which has the potential to be real just like all works of fictions have the potential to be real.
For some reason you don't want The Bible either in the Fake or Real section - you just want it in the section which says it's fake pretending to be real and that section is called the 'religious section' which destroys and trashes The Bible, the characters and the storyline, through worthless 'religious' debate.
There is no debate.
The Bible belongs in the Fiction section at the very least, to start off with, and The Bible in the Fiction section says:
Jesus Christ walked on water, turned water into wine, died and rose again, and is the Son of God.
If The Bible is in the Fictional section it's one step closer to becoming reality like all fictional works are so if The Bible did make it into the Factual section because it's true then:
Jesus Christ walked on water, turned water into wine, died and rose again, and is the Son of God.
The Bible in the 'Fictional Pretending to be Factual Section' debates...
It says Jesus Christ didn't walked on water, he didn't turn water into wine, he didn't die and rise again, and he isn't the Son of God.
The religious section destroys the LORE of the Biblical Univers and the Atheists put it there.
It's like debating whether Darth Vader uses the force in the Star Wars Universe.
It's like asking for proof Darth Vader is who he says he is.
Do you want scientific proof Superman can fly?
Saying Jesus Christ went to India and became a monk is like saying Harry Potter went to India and became a monk.
Jesus Christ didn't go to India to become a monk and neither did Harry Potter otherwise it would say so in the LORE of their respective Universe.
They didn't put The Hobbit into the religious section to be debated like they did with the Bible.
Nobody says Bilbo isn't a Hobbit. Why is that?
Are you afraid if it is put into the fiction section it might become a reality and the characters in The Bible destroy selfish power?
Atheism would disappear forever? Just looking after yourselves? Selfish perhaps?
Getting rich off somebody elses work by destroying it?
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@ "Jesus Christ is Lord."
Happy to admit it as soon as you prove it is true. So far your attempts are Moronic. Let's see what you got this time.
@ "And half of the world said The Bible was fiction.And half of the wold said The Bible was factual." argumentum ad populum. FALLACY. The number of people believing something has no bearing on the truth of the claim. Half the world once believed in animism. Half the world once believed the world was flat. Half the world once believed disease was the result of evil spirits. Your assertion is IGNORANT.
2. There is no debate.
You are correct about that. Arguing from a single event "One Atheist" to the general population is another FALLACY. Faulty generalization, is when you argue from one instance to the whole. It is another sign of complete IGNORANCE.
3. @"The Bible belongs in the Fiction section at the very least"
We can all agree on that. It will only be fact when it is proved to be fact. If Jesus walked on water he did it the same way Criss Angel did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBQLq2VmZcA
4. Nobody says Bilbo isn't a Hobbit. Why is that?
"Bilbo isn't a Hobbit." Done. Prove me wrong.
5. Just looking after yourselves? Selfish perhaps? Getting rich off somebody else's work by destroying it?
If this were true at all, there would be no Churches robbing from the poor, stealing money from the sick and dying, and taking everything they can get their hands on from the recently dead. You don't actually think a Church ever did anything at all without making a profit from it do you? Churches are businesses and they are in the business of conning people into superstitious beliefs, self preservation and growth.,
Bilbo Baggins is a Hobbit because it says so in The Hobbit which was created by J. R. R. Tolkien.
It doesn't matter what you say or what sciences say.
All the proof Bilbo Baggins is a Hobbiit can be found in the Middle-earth Universe which was originally created by J. R. R. Tolkien.
J. R. R. Tolkien (original creation) states Bilbo Baggins (original creation) is a Hobbit (original creation) in his Universe Middle-earth (original creation).
You just destroyed J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth, his original characters, his original storylines, which you didn't create.
And it took you no time at all - it took J. R. R. Tolkien a lot of time to create The Hobbit and you destroyed it in a matter of seconds.
Destruction is easy and that's why you destroy because you want the easy route - but you want the reward for the difficult option.
You want something for nothing.
You don't have that right to do that.
It's vandalism - you're a vandal. You just stole somethng from J. R. R. Tolkien. You're a thief.
That's my whole point.
You think you have the right to destroy J. R. R. Tolkien's work but you don't.
You have the 'ability' to vandalise it but it doesn't give you the right to vandalise it, does it?
You're like nasty children with one skill/spell: destroy.
Maybe if you were taught how to create you would all shut up as you created beautiful things for you and others to play with then I would finally get some rest and relaxation. I could go on a much needed vacation.
You need to be like children with two skills/spells: create and destroy.
And once you started creating you wouldn't want to destroy somebody elses work because you would know how it feels when somebody destroys your work of art.
It's not a nice feeling.
Himelo: Your profile says you are an atheist. Hmmmm! Is that true?
We're all atheists in this world, bother.
Himelo: No! We are not all atheists. Some people are believers and some are just bullshitters.
No, bro, I'm not debating. We're all lacking that je ne sais quoi.
It's what his profile doesn't say that is important.
It's all in my profile.
somebody went off their meds!
Are all atheists on meds? Atheists mention meds a lot when somebody speaks the truth.
Have you got some kind of pill that destroys truth?
Are you telling me to take my meds so I don't speak the truth?
@HIMELO you seem to be confusing the "real world" and the "fictional world".
Religions make supernatural claims, which cannot be proved true or false.
Saying Bilbo Baggins isn't a Hobbit is a lie.
Saying Darth Vader doesn't use the force is a lie.
Saying Jesus Christ doesn't walk on water is a lie.
Bilbo Baggins is a Hobbit.
Darth Vader does use the force.
Jesus Christ walks on water.
You can say Bilbo Baggins isn't a Hobbit.
You can say Darth Vader doesn't use the force
You can say Jesus Christ doesn't have the ability to walk on water.
But if you did say those things, you would be lieing because it's not true.
In The Hobbit Universe Bilbo Baggins is a Hobbit.
In The Star Wars Universe Darth Vader uses the force.
In The Biblical Universe Jesus Christ walks on water.
If you were going to put The Bible into a category, and you didn't believe it, you wouldn't put it in the trashy religious section, you would put it into the 'fictional works of art' section alongside The Hobbit.
Atheists are saying The Bible is fiction, not real, fantasy, so they should be saying:
Bilbo Baggins is a Hobbit.
Darth Vader does use the force.
Jesus Christ walks on water.
You're wanting your cake and to eat it. You're cheating.
You want to say it's fiction and then debate whether it's real or not.
So you're the believers!
It's like debating whether The Hobbit is real or not.
It's like having Atheist scholars debating whether Frodo Baggins is a Hobbit like he says he is and everybody searching for scientific evidence and proof Frodo Baggins isn't lieing.
Is The Bible Real or Not Real? Is it fiction or not fiction?
Why don't you make up your minds instead of trying to have it both ways?
You don't want anybody to believe it's real or fake. You don't want it to exist...unless you can profit from it without it existing.
The thing you hate is what gives you a reason to live for. Your lives would be EMPTY without it.
The Lord of the Rings is a fictional piece of work, but that does not mean that it does not use concepts that exist in the real world.
It is perfectly possible that some things in the Bible are factual.
I want to believe the truth, and for people to believe the truth - I don't know where you get this notion that I have any other interest.
Distinguishing fact from fantasy is a very important developmental task on the path from childhood to adulthood.
Another drive by nut job, that was never going to last the distance. Adios...
OP: This guy is just posting crap to get a reaction. He is a waste of breath.
Seems to me he read the book "1984" waaaay too many times.
Himelo "Why don't Atheists admit Jesus Christ is LORD when it's a fact?"
It's a tough concept to grasp, but basically it's not a fact, and if they believed it were then they would not be atheists, you cretin.
It's interesting, thanks!
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