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hi guys just come across a

hi guys just come across a picture of the tall el hammam site and in the picture is a man sitting on a hill top which is made up of what seems to be a black rock formation i think the hill is just in front of the tall el hammam site. Is this dark rock formation caused by scorching?

here is the link for said picture,

https://smyrnaean.blogspot.com/2015/10/top-12-reasons-sodom-is-tall-el-h...

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Is the dark rock caused by

Is the dark rock caused by scorching?

In a round-about way, the answer is yes. From what I can see in the picture, the rock is basaltic in nature. Basaltic rock is formed due to the intrusion of magma/lava. Thus, the rock was "scorched." Just not in the way you are thinking.

However, I cannot say for sure because I cannot look at the rock any closer than the picture. If I could see a much closer, high resolution picture of the rock itself, I could make a more accurate assessment.

rmfr

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"Collins’ discoveries sound

"Collins’ discoveries sound intriguing, but I still contend that every bit of evidence he uncovers for a destruction towards the end of the Middle Bronze Age (circa 1600-1500 BC) makes it all the more unlikely that he is excavating Sodom. The chronology simply will not work, unless you imagine that Abraham died when he was about 30, his son Isaac died when he was about 30, his grandson Jacob died when he was about 30, Joseph died when he was about 30, the Israelite sojourn in Egypt lasted about 40 years, and the wilderness wanderings lasted about 40 years. In short you have to massively compress all of the numbers in the biblical narrative to make everything “fit.” (By “compress” I mean to deny and invent your own to suit your theory.)"
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/wp-content/uploads/excavator-finds-e...

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@ Spudnik …..

@ Spudnik …..

" Is this dark rock formation caused by scorching?"

In short...… No.

Not least because If it were , then there would be hordes of evangelical "archaeologists" each proclaiming it as evidence for their own particular brand of delusion … Baptists ,Anglicans ,Catholics ,Methodists etc. etc.

No ,you are still looking for things you think should be there rather than examining/studying what is actually there .

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watchman: "No, you are still

watchman: "No, you are still looking for things you think should be there rather than examining/studying what is actually there."

Good one, dude. Didn't read this until I replied to Spudnik's post.

rmfr

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thank you guys for your help

thank you guys for your help apparently there is no volcano in the area

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@ Spudnick

@ Spudnick

You do not need a volcano in the area to have a magma/lava intrusion. Look at the recent eruption at Hawai'i. Fissure 8 is actually about 20 kilometers from where the main magma chamber is situated. Cracks can form from a major magma intrusion, yet the magma can breach the surface (becoming lava) many, many kilometers away.

Additionally, the Jordon River valley is a major divergence zone (a.k.a. rift zone) where the Earth's surface is pulling apart. As this "pulling apart" occurs, it produces cracks, thus there will be magma/lava intrusions. Look up Plate Tectonics. And the magma/lava intrusions can still occur many kilometers east and/or west of the main divergence zone.

rmfr

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Would that kind of event be

Would that kind of event be able to take place as high up as this hill or does it normally happen at lower levels.

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Any. Depends on how the

Any. Depends on how the cracks run.

rmfr

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and before the volcano erupts

and before the volcano erupts, the earthquakes all over the place. and during. and after.

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so is this area a hot spot

so is this area a hot spot for magma flows as big as this

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could even be bigger... rmfr

could even be bigger...

rmfr

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@ Spudnik

@ Spudnik

Here are some sample images just to show you. All images were made in Google Earth Pro, with a little help from Photoshop.

HawaiiLavaField-Hawaii.jpg
This image highlights the current lava fields that have been covering part of Hawai'i since Kilauea's eruption began in 1983.
https://i.imgur.com/TMQGpYU.jpg

HawaiiLavaField-Israel.jpg
This superimposes the lava fields over the area of the Dead Sea using the exact same scale.
https://i.imgur.com/IsuiBNw.jpg

EastAfricaRiftZone.jpg
This is only part of the entire East African Rift Zone Complex. I only highlight the main divergence zone. In fact, there are many other smaller rift fractures all along the rift complex.
https://i.imgur.com/Ce9K9p1.jpg

RiftZoneIsrael.jpg
This is the highlight of the main divergence zone as it runs up through the Levant.
https://i.imgur.com/UE6I7vb.jpg

Although it does not completely cover the entire rift zone through the Levant, the Kilauea lava field does cover quite a large area.

The divergence areas may not be 100% accurate, but they are very, very close.

If wanted, you can even download the images. At least I think you can. I ain't never tried.

rmfr

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Hi and thank you for your

Hi and thank you for your help with these links i have had a look at the lava fields that cover the dead sea area and they don't seem to be in the area of the tall el hammam site but is it still possible that there are larva fields that cover that area but not showing up on your link. Thank you for your help still trying to get to grips with the larva field geology .

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@ Spudnik

@ Spudnik

Here are a couple of more images I made up. Again in Google Earth Pro and Photoshop.

Started these last night but got too sleepy. Forgot to save my work like a dumb ass retard. Had to start over this morning after going through the forums for new posts.

FloodBasaltProvince-WashOrgn.jpg
A generalized polygon showing where the Flood Basalt Province is located in the northwest states mostly in Washington and Oregon.
https://i.imgur.com/oZIMZXU.jpg

FloodBasaltProvince-Levant.jpg
The same Flood Basalt Province superimposed on the Levant area using the same exact scale.
https://i.imgur.com/BM3rhOh.jpg

Again, a set of images to show how much area a magma/lava field can cover. And think on this, the Columbia River Flood Basalt Province is one of the SMALLEST Flood Basalt Province (FBP). The Siberian Traps are largest covering millions of square kilometers.

rmfr

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Hi there ok so i have been

Hi there ok so i have been looking at some more info about rift zones and flood basalt regions to try and understand it a bit more i think i understand your links a little bit more now please correct me if i'm wrong but what i think your saying is that a rift zone runs straight through the dead sea past the tall el hammam site in which because of a pulling apart of the plates the possibility of a magma spill forming a flood basalt is quite likely all along the dead sea region .

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Yes. All the way up into

Yes. All the way up into Lebanon. The Golan Heights region. Basically, the whole Jordan River Valley is in a rift. That is why the Dead Sea can be below sea level. No connection to the sea (yet). The possibility exists. And has probably happened. Remember, basalt deposits can form above ground with a lava event. However, they can also occur underground and never breach the surface. Then regular erosion can expose them. The more black it is, the more iron/magnesium the magma/lava possessed. The more white/beige, as in granite, the more silicon the magma/lava possessed. Look at Yosemite. It was formed by what are called plutons later carved by glaciers. Plutons are magma intrusions into existing rock but never breach the surface. In fact, many plutons remain one or more kilometers underground until some uplifting event raises the ground and erosion exposes the pluton. Most pluton will invariably be granite based since the magma will melt surrounding rock and mix with it, forming rhyolitic based magma/lava.

Basically, as magma intrudes into surrounding rock, it acts like a balloon being inflated. As the rock is inflated, it is also cracked, allowing magma to also follow those cracks.

Also, not all black, dark grey, grey rock is basaltic. It could be shale, or its metamorphic cousin, slate. As I said, from what I could tell from the photo is that the rock "looked" to be basaltic. It definitely does not look like shale or slate because it does not seem to be fracturing like shale or slate.

And for the ultimate. The rift zone running up through the Jordan River Valley is considered to be a "extinct" rift zone. Much like the Rio Grande Rift in New Mexico. Although it is not an impossibility, it is highly improbable any more magma/lave intrusions will occur in that region. However, since the Earth is still highly geomorphologically active, one can never tell.

rmfr

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Hi do you know when the

Hi do you know when the Jordan river valley rift zone went extinct .

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Not a clue. Probably could

Not a clue. Probably could find out, but it is more interesting to me to know that the rift zone through the Levant is just a spur of Afar Trinary Junction being a part of the larger East African Rift Zone Complex. In actuality, this is something similar to when Africa, Antarctica, and India split apart. If one were to look at the map of the seafloor, you can see where this occurred about 66Ma ago.

rmfr

P.S. — hashed together in less than two minutes, thus forgive the amateurish look. The attached image shows where the Indian Ocean Trinary Rift Junction is located. If you notice, you can also see the "racetracks" (faint cyan highlights) left behind as the Indian sub-continent went racing towards the Asian continent. In fact, most of the Indian sub-continental plate is shoved up "under" the Asian continental plate helping to give the Himalayans and the Tibetan Plateau their elevations. Did you know that the Tibetan Plateau has an area about two-thirds to three-quarters that of the contiguous United States, yet the average elevation of the Tibetan Plateau is almost equal to that of Pike's Peak at 4302 meters (14,115 feet)? Just imagine, excepting JUST the states on the Atlantic (Maine to Florida), the whole United States had an elevation of 12,000 feet or higher.

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Richard. Magnificent,

Richard. Magnificent, fantastic Richard: "Although it does not completely cover the entire rift zone through the Levant, the Kilauea lava field does cover quite a large area."

oh, no shit, Sherlock! Don't forget the new land being formed UNDER the water, once it reaches the Pacific. It's huge.

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Magnificent Beast: "oh, no

Magnificent Beast: "oh, no shit, Sherlock! Don't forget the new land being formed UNDER the water, once it reaches the Pacific. It's huge."

Define "huge" please. From the mapping done by the USGS, the new island being formed by the "currently" underwater volcano is only about one-tenth the size of the island of Hawai'i. See attached image. And forgive the amateur appearance since I hashed it in less than two minutes.

If not known, the big island is the one called Hawai'i. The other islands have different names, but are a part of the "State of Hawai'i." Just clarifying, IF you did not know already.

That "new" island of Loihi won't be emerging for another 9 to 11 Ka.

Again some definitions. Ka = Kilo-annums, Ma = Mega-annums, Ga = Giga-annums. Kilo = thousands, Mega = millions, Giga = billions. Annum is a term geologists use to refer to the "revolutionary period" or "orbital period" of the Earth around the sun. Geologists use annums since it has been shown that the planets were closer to the sun billions of years ago as compared to today. Planets drift away from the sun in a process known as "scattering." Or, more technically as celestial body scattering due to orbital resonance and gravitational resonance. A great example of this is the Jupiter-Saturn resonance of 2:3. With the 2:3 orbital resonance, Jupiter and Saturn are in what is referred to as "stable" orbits. Their orbits should not change any for the next 10 billion years, barring some exceptional catastrophe.

Anyway, yes I know about the island of Loihi. Yeah, they have already named it. Currently, it is still called the Loihi Seamount.

What I was including in those images is the lava that has flowed on land, not underwater. There is evidence of a Flood Basalt Province in the Pacific that is larger than the Siberian Traps and the Deccan Traps combined. Check out this image at Wikimedia. The dark purple color shows the areas of Flood Basalt Provinces.

Remember, there is a huge difference between a Flood Basalt Province (a.k.a. Large Igneous Province (LIP)) and a Basaltic Intrusion. Mainly, size and volume. A Flood Basalt Province will cover tens of thousands to millions of square kilometers. Basaltic Intrusions will usually only cover up to thousands of square kilometers.

rmfr

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Loihi is an active volcano,

Loihi is an active volcano, not an island.

Kilauea is HUGE. meaning really big; huge. huge enough to change the landscape. Huge enough to kill people, destroy homes, destroy property held through generations, and historical sites. Huge enough for you?

Also, don't go to USGS or whatever iti was. Go to phys.org. Any self-respecting volcanologist will tell you the last people on earth to give you the truth is the gov't.

Kilauea isn't going away. Many, Many scientists think we have been going through it since 1983, when it first erupted.

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http://www.atheistrepublic

http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/archaeological-finding...

Magnificent Beast: Loihi is an active volcano, not an island.

Kilauea is HUGE. meaning really big; huge. huge enough to change the landscape. Huge enough to kill people, destroy homes, destroy property held through generations, and historical sites. Huge enough for you?

Also, don't go to USGS or whatever iti was. Go to phys.org. Any self-respecting volcanologist will tell you the last people on earth to give you the truth is the gov't.

Kilauea isn't going away. Many, Many scientists think we have been going through it since 1983, when it first erupted.

Uhmm... MB, you lost me. Going in the order of your post above.

I never said Loihi was an island. I said Loihi was an underwater volcano on the Loihi Seamount and will become an island in another 9 to 11 Ka.

Kilauea is quite large. But it is not as huge as you think. See attached image. Another hash-up in about three minutes. It shows the State of North Carolina with the State of Hawai'i and a highlight of the Kilauean Lava Fields superimposed on top. The entire lava fields are even larger than the County of New Hanover. However, the current eruption only covered an area smaller than Hew Hanover County. Also see this map.

Yes Kilauea is large enough to destroy a lot of stuff. My wife and I went to see Kilauea a year after it started its eruption in 1983. In 1984, Kilauea was fountaining lava about 100 meters into the air. Twice as high as the highest fountains Fissure 8 threw up.

And Yes I will go to the USGS. I work with them. For them. Why would I not trust whom I work for? "phys.org" is a news aggreagtor website. It ain't even a "true" science site. Yes it reports science, but ain't science.

Magnificent Beast: Any self-respecting volcanologist will tell you the last people on earth to give you the truth is the gov't.

I am a volcanologist. I work at Yellowstone helping to monitor the world's largest active caldera.

And yes, Kilauea will eventually go away. Once the Pacific Plate moves far enough to the west-northwest, Loihi will become the new "hotspot" island. And the newest island of the Hawai'ian chain. Just have to wait about another 10,000 years. Kilauea will still exist for quite a few million years until get worn away as Midway Island.

So, MB, what were you trying to specifically state?

rmfr

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Guess where I live. Guess.

Guess where I live. Guess.

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Thu, 09/06/2018 - 08:40

Arakash says: "If not known, the big island is the one called Hawai'i. The other islands have different names, but are a part of the "State of Hawai'i." Just clarifying, IF you did not know already.

"That "new" island of Loihi won't be emerging for another 9... Anyway, yes I know about the island of Loihi."

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Magnificent says: See? Yes, you did call it an island.

I guess I expected folks like you to have more respect for Kilauea. But since your work for the gov't, now, I understand. YOu probably have absolutely no idea about the implications and the crisis that's now going on between different factions.

To you, it's just a bunch of photos and a bunch of data. (ooo you were there in '83?? I'm impressed.)

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@ MB

@ MB

Sorry. I guess you live on the island of Hawai'i in the Leilani Estates and lost your house. I am sorry for your loss.

Agencies such as the USGS do not have anything to do with the people misplaced by such a catastrophic geological event. All we do is monitor and study those events.

What you are bitching about is FEMA. I do not have a damned thing to do with what they do. All I do is study volcanoes. And I happen to be helping to study and monitor the world's largest.

Yes, I feel sympathy for those misplaced by the current lava flows. What do you want me to do about it? I am sorry for the effects of this event. Do you think I could have stopped it? Could you? Could anyone except god? People die everyday. People lose property for one event or another. Yes I have sympathy. But I am also deeply fascinated by volcanoes. It is a love of mine just like growing Bonsai Trees. I have my loves, you have your loves. You can either accept the fact that I am a volcanologist, or do not. I do not give a damn either way because I am still going to be a volcanologist, regardless.

Thus, do not take out your frustrations on me. I ain't got a damned thing to do with it. And if you feel I do because I work with and for the USGS, then that is YOUR problem. Not mine.

Ultimately, I feel sympathy for the losses caused by the latest lava flow. However, I ain't going to let that stop me from doing my job.

rmfr

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rmfr, I don't live in Leilani

rmfr, I don't live in Leilani Estates. I'm not "bitching" about FEMA. You really don't know what's happening between the USGS, the state govt, and the Big Island tax payers? The insurance companies who use the USGS infor? It's no wonder you don't about the controversies in the area. "Agencies such as the USGS do not have anything to do with the people misplaced by such a catastrophic geological event. All we do is monitor and study those events." Richard, are you serious? Where do you think the info goes? In an archive?

I am not taking my frustrations out on you. I'm challenging you with your incorrect info about Kilauea. and you got called on it. What I expect happened, is you think you thought you were going to teach us all, and aren't responsible for what you text. It's a debate forum. So anything you post can be debated. You said Loihi is an island. I showed you proof of your mistake.

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rmfr, I don't live in Leilani

rmfr, I don't live in Leilani Estates.

Good. There where? Evidently somewhere near. Else you would not have such adamant hatred to all persons who receive a paycheck from the federal government. Guess I am going to have to quit my job and live on the streets... Then again, I could just file early retirement.

I'm not "bitching" about FEMA.

Yes you are. In such catastrophes, it is FEMA that manages the disaster. NOT the USGS.

You really don't know what's happening between the USGS, the state govt, and the Big Island tax payers?

Enlighten me. The USGS provides the information. What the other agencies do with that information is not controlled by the USGS.

The insurance companies who use the USGS info?

Please explain. As said above, what those insurance companies do with the information is not in the control of the USGS.

It's no wonder you don't know about the controversies in the area.

I know of them. I have seen the stories. However, what do you want me to do about it? If memory serves, does not the State of Hawai'i own ALL the land? Does not the people living there in a sense only "rent" the land upon which they have their homes?

"Agencies such as the USGS do not have anything to do with the people misplaced by such a catastrophic geological event. All we do is monitor and study those events." Richard, are you serious?

Yes. That is the job of the USGS. Our job is to monitor, study, collect data, then provide that information to whomever needs it. Reiteration, what others do with that information is not in our control.

Where do you think the info goes? In an archive?

Yes. What do you think happens with all the data the USGS harvests? It goes into computer archives. And I can access it if I desire.

I am not taking my frustrations out on you.

Yes, you are. You are directly assaulting me by assaulting the Society I work with and for. Assault whom I work for, you are assaulting me.

MB: "Those aren't volcanoes. Those are just huge boils. Kilauea is the mother of all volcanoes."

Your way of attacking me and what I posted in this post.

I'm challenging you with your incorrect info about Kilauea and you got called on it.

Yes you did, but also in other posts you actually attacked. That was just part of it. However, your challenge was a nit-picky complaint. A nit-picky complaint about semantics.

What I expect happened, is you think you thought you were going to teach us all, and aren't responsible for what you text.

I am responsible. It just seems you are the only one to take offense, instead of understanding what was written.

It's a debate forum.

Really? Thanks for that enlightenment.

So anything you post can be debated.

Yes, it can. Please do so.

You said Loihi is an island.

In a layman reference. Also see below.

I showed you proof of your mistake.

But you did not look at all of it. You cherry-picked only one part of one sentence.

Here it is again without the intervening text. Operative words have been emphasized with bold text.

From the mapping done by the USGS, the new island being formed by the "currently" underwater volcano is only about one-tenth the size of the island of Hawai'i.

That "new" island of Loihi won't be emerging for another 9 to 11 Ka.

Notice I had already said it was an underwater volcano. Then I used "layman" terminology in saying it was a "NEW" island that would emege in another 9 to 11 thousand years (9 to 11 Ka). I shall cede that I used an incorrect verb form. Granted, you were correct. The verb form that I should have used should have been "would be" instead of "was."

And I had already discussed why us geologists use the term "annums" instead of years.

MB: "Don't forget the new land being formed UNDER the water, once it reaches the Pacific. It's huge."

And please explain exactly what you meant by the above statement. It still does not make any kind of sense. Especially, "once it reaches the Pacific." Huh? It has already reached the Pacific. It is within the Pacific. And please define "It's huge." Square or cubic kilometers, meters, hectares. Your choice.

MB: "Also, don't go to USGS or whatever it was. Go to phys.org. Any self-respecting volcanologist will tell you the last people on earth to give you the truth is the gov't."

Reiteration: phys.org is NOT a science site. It is nothing but a news agreggator. Same thing as https://www.cnn.com/, except they agreggate science stories. And most of those science stories are written by regular journalists who have no idea on how to write a true science journal.

The USGS is NOT the government. Evidently you do not know that USGS stands for United States Geological Society. Yes, a huge portion of our funds come from the federal government. HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT THE GOVERNMENT. The USGS is a society of scientists. NOT GOVERNMENTAL AGENTS. Ever heard of National Geographic. They also receive funds from the federal government. According to you, we cannot trust anything they publish on their web site nor in their magazine. Same thing with the Smithsonian Institute. Guess we cannot trust their magazine, their web site, their museum.

MB: "Kilauea isn't going away."

Yes it will. Eventually. But nobody today will know. Tens to hundreds of millions of years down the road, Kilauea will go away. When the Pacific Plate moves far enough, the island of Hawai'i will no longer be above the hotspot and will eventually be eroded until it is underwater. No longer an island. However, the hotspot underneath will probably still be there creating new islands as the Pacific Plate keeps moving to the west until it is subducted underneath the Eurasian Plate. Check it out.

If memory serves, Midway Island is the one of the last remnants of the island that used to be over the hotspot where the Hawai'i Island now sits. However, I think there are a few other shoals past Midway Island. Will have to go look.

MB: "Many, Many scientists think we have been going through it since 1983, when it first erupted."

No we do not believe. We know. As said in previous post, my wife and I visited Kilauea in 1984. Our daughters were only 2 and stayed with my sister's-in-law family.

MB: "I guess I expected folks like you to have more respect for Kilauea."

I do respect volcanos. They are a very powerful and destructive force of nature. Something humans can only view and study in awe. I know how dangerous volcanos can be. The most dangerous are the rhyolitic volcanos because they are ALWAYS explosive. Thus, they are more dangerous and destructive than the basaltic volcanos.

MB: "But since your work for the gov't, now, I understand. You probably have absolutely no idea about the implications and the crisis that's now going on between different factions."

What factions?

MB: "To you, it's just a bunch of photos and a bunch of data."

Yep. You are correct.

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Now I am going to be the cruel and heartless bastard you think I am.

Those persons knew Kilauea was an active volcano. They chose to live in its shadow. They knew something like this recent expulsion of lava could happen. Thus, whose fault is it?

Now go look at Vesuvius. Look at how many people are living within its danger zone. Whose fault is that?

Does the government force those people to live within the danger zones of the volcanos? Hell, no! In fact, virtually every government (and their agencies) I have had contact with actually ask people not to live within a volcano's danger zone.

Now to be a true asshole. Should I feel sorry for those who have lost due to the eruption of a volcano? No. However, I do feel sympathy for their loss.

They chose to live there, but I still sympathize for what they have lost.

Here is an off-topic question similar enough to not truly be off-topic. Should I feel sympathy for those people who choose to live in Tornado Alley when they lose there property? What about people who choose to live on coast knowing they are under the danger of hurricanes?

You must remember one thing. Us humans choose to live in dangerous places. However, even they choose to live where they choose to live, I still sympathize when any disaster causes any kind of loss.

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And to really show I am the sorriest shit on AR, here is where you derailed a conversation between Spudnik and I.

http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/archaeological-findings?page=2#comment-116345

In response to this post I made.

http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/archaeological-findings?page=2#comment-116202

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And let's get to meat of the offense I have given you.

I'm challenging you with your incorrect info about Kilauea and you got called on it.

Besides the Loihi Seamount, what else have I gotten incorrect? Please, enlighten me.

rmfr

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Richard, first off, calm down

Richard, first off, calm down. Gee. Why so angry and defensive? Calm down.

Where did I say you were a heartless whatever it was you called yourself? Calm down!

You said you didn't know about the problems at Kilauea. I was shocked because you work for the USGS. I thought you knew. You don't, so don't worry about it.

Watch your blood pressure, silly. You don't want a heart attack.And you shouldn't ask me about private info about where I live; that's outside the guidelines. I asked you to guess. You guessed wrong. It's no big deal.

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Seriously, Bonzai Boy, are

Seriously, Bonzai Boy, are you okay? You know you can PM anytime you want, right?

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MB: Richard, first off, calm

MB: Richard, first off, calm down. Gee. Why so angry and defensive? Calm down.

I was not truly angry. I was just pissed off. If I had been angry, my post would have been deleted due to excessive filthy communication. Seriously.

Defensive? Yes. The posts you made, although I dare say I am completely wrong, just seemed as if you were blaming all the current troubles caused by the recent Kilauea eruption on the USGS. You did also include "the gov't," but...

MB: Where did I say you were a heartless whatever it was you called yourself? Calm down!

In actuality, I am wrong in the way I worded that. I was calling myself a "heartless bastard." However, my wording did imply you called me that. For that, I am sorry. When I am pissed off, I tend to respond Christopher Hitchens style. It is also my fault for NOT going back and proofing and editing what I had said. I apologize. I am sorry. (I know you are, but what am I? (Sorry, couldn't help myself.)) Sometimes that inner child comes out.

MB: You said you didn't know about the problems at Kilauea. I was shocked because you work for the USGS. I thought you knew. You don't, so don't worry about it.

Notice bold text. Actually, I do know about the problems going on with those displaced. I just wanted you to tell me what your version was. I only know what is going on through the news stories. It is a fucking shame (pardon my English). I wish there was something I could do. Sincerely, if I could, I'd give each family a million dollars so they can properly relocate. Reiteration, it is a fucking shame. FEMA needs to get off their sorry asses and actually do something. And, I do worry about it because it is a fucking shame those agencies ain't doing anything. Sorry assholes.

MB: Watch your blood pressure, silly. You don't want a heart attack. And you shouldn't ask me about private info about where I live; that's outside the guidelines. I asked you to guess. You guessed wrong. It's no big deal.

I know I should not have put in that bullshit question. I have posted that I now live in New Mexico (used to be Gardiner, Montana). When I get a "field assignment," I charter a plane (USGS reimburses me 40%, better than nothing) to fly me up to near Yellowstone and a co-worker picks me up. Where I live, there is a small airport about 1600 meters from where I actually live. However, I never posted more specifically than the state. I should not have asked that question. It just blurted out. Again, I apologize. I am sorry.

"You don't want a heart attack." Already had one. Was only 35 years old. Caused me to severely change my diet.

MB: Seriously, Bonzai Boy, are you okay? You know you can PM anytime you want, right?

Bonzai? LOL. That was funny. And, yes, I am fine. Just that it seemed you were directly assaulting whom I work for. Let me look those words up...

Bonzai — (correct spelling is Banzai (even I had it wrong all these decades)) used as a Japanese patriotic cry or joyous shout; used as a Japanese battle cry.

Bonsai — a tree or shrub that has been dwarfed, as by pruning the roots and pinching, and is grown in a pot or other container and trained to produce a desired shape or effect; the art or hobby of developing and growing such a plant or plants.

OK. I just learned something new. Reminds me of something me dad said once, "If you don't learn something new everyday, then you ain't learning."

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