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Can someone tell me the correct belief of an Athiest. Like Christians believe in Trinity, Muslims believe in God. What is the understanding or belief of an Atheist person ?

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chimp3's picture
Which atheist?

Which atheist?

SBMontero's picture
Let us play to complete the

@Ali: Let us play to complete the phrase: if you're theistic, like a Christian -you know, the trinity is irrelevant and you think that way make us believe that you believe in something different than a Christian, and not-, because you believe that god exists, then an atheist...

C'mon! Yes, you can. Go ahead!

xenoview's picture
Every atheist is different.

Every atheist is different. All atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods.

CyberLN's picture
Not all xtians believe in the

Not all xtians believe in the trinity.

SBMontero's picture
@CyberLN: He/she has only

@CyberLN: He/she has only used the trinity as a way of implying that a Muslim believes in something different from a Christian, when both believe In the existence of a god, It does not matter if call it Allah, Yaveh, Zeus, Jupiter, Mitra, Sol Invictus... the same thing.

CyberLN's picture
Not to be a contrarian, but

Not to be a contrarian, but how do you know that the OP used the trinity in that way?

SBMontero's picture
@CyberLN: I may be wrong, but

@CyberLN: I may be wrong, but "(...) Like Christians believe in Trinity, Muslims believe in God (...)" doesn't give me many more options... or you really think that he believes that the Christians believe in trinity and not in god, Really?

CyberLN's picture
Well, I can only go by the

Well, I can only go by the words the OP typed. I do my best, although not always successfully, to avoid reading anything into the words in see on the screen. The OP said something and I threw in my two cents worth. I'll stand by and wait until the OP clarifies.

jamiebgood1's picture
I used to assume atheism was

I used to assume atheism was a religion.Its not. I think Christians who found some joys in the church want a simular flock like christians have. to build to up and give u a safe place. Its not reality and although I love the spine tingling feeling u get from thinking I'm one with god. Those feelings are also found in other beautiful experiences now. For me Its become a starting point to start learning whats important for once. To dedicate my life to an age or book that little relation to me was a big waste of my time:)

MCDennis's picture
I believe that I have not

I believe that I have not heard any claims about gods or god that I believe

mykcob4's picture
You are making an assumption.

You are making an assumption. You think atheism is a belief and it is not. If you need an education, and clearly you do, try looking up the definition before you come here making wild assumptions.
Atheists have plenty of beliefs depending on the individual atheist but none of them have to do with any religion.

ZeffD's picture
'Atheism' NOUN

'Atheism' NOUN
the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
(It's presumably regarded as a doctrine in certain theologies. I don't believe in god(s) but that isn't a doctrine).
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
(That's it for most atheists, in my experience).

And religionists are presumably atheists regarding the god(s) of other religions.

doc·trine [ dok-trin] NOUN
a particular principle, position, or policy taught or advocated, as of a religion or government: Catholic doctrines; the Monroe Doctrine.
something that is taught; teachings collectively: religious doctrine.
a body or system of teachings relating to a particular subject: the doctrine of the Catholic Church.

MCDennis's picture
I disagree with the

I disagree with the definition provided above. I Do Not believe there is no God because this is a positive claim. I disbelieve the claims made by others that gods exist.

LogicFTW's picture
In the definition above, I

In the definition above, I think it is also important to define the word god.

Merriam Webster definition of god:

Definition of god
capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe
b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
: a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality Greek gods of love and war


Using those two definitions of atheist and god. I am definitely an atheist, even though I believe in the remote, but unlikely possibility there is some sort of greater being than us, that may have played some sort of role in the creation of the universe. Mainly because I am not so arrogant to think I know everything about everything.

SBMontero's picture
@MCD: I agree, it isn't about

@MCD: I agree, it isn't about believing, I know that god doesn't exist.

SBMontero's picture
@ZeffD: Then call to atheism

@ZeffD: Then call to atheism "doctrine" is a nonsense.

SecularSonOfABiscuitEater's picture
Atheists differ depending on

Atheists differ depending on who they are. For me, I don't have "beliefs" There's no need to say "I believe the world is round" it just is. When it comes to god. No so called miracle or story is going to convince me that there is one until there is one revealed by it's own free will. Visible and Tangible.

MCDennis's picture
I agree. I don't have a

I agree. I don't have a belief system. I might say: I believe the sun will rise tomorrow, but what I actually mean is that i have a reasonable expectation that the sun will rise tomorrow. Belief is the excuse that religious people use for their belief system when they don't have a good reason to believe what they believe without good evidence.

Their faith and beliefs are no different from belief in magic. What created the universe? Magic. What caused the first cell to exist? Magic. How do we know that the bible is true and correct? Magic. Why or how did jeebus rise from the dead? Magic

Sky Pilot's picture
It's always tomorrow

It's always tomorrow somewhere on this planet.

watchman's picture
@Ali ...

@Ali ...

Perhaps you should tell us what you think Atheist beliefs are...... should perhaps read this first...... it might help explain the response you will receive

"Man ‘sentenced to death for atheism’ in Saudi Arabia"

Quote from A.C.Grayling....(see Atheist Republic Home page)

"Religious apologists complain bitterly that atheists and secularists are aggressive and hostile in their criticism of them.
I always say: look, when you guys were in charge, you didn't argue with us, you just burnt us at the stake.
Now what we're doing is, we're presenting you with some arguments and some challenging questions, and you complain."

algebe's picture
@Ali: "Can someone tell me

@Ali: "Can someone tell me the correct belief of an Athiest."

Speaking for myself, I've gone back to the default position of having no religious belief. All the religious conditioning that I suffered as a chid has worn off, and I'm a blank slate where religion is concerned. When I look at religions from that perspective, I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or puke. They're all equally nonsensical and disgusting.

Why don't you try looking at your religion objectively and dispassionately. Pretend you've never heard of it until today. Would you believe that story if a stranger told it to you for the first time?

Pitar's picture
A-theist = Anti-theist = the

A-theist = Anti-theist = the disbelief in gods.

I think your question is poignant and telling of a person who cannot fathom the atheist. It might be a simple task to describe myself to you but you might not be able to grasp it as a reality. I completely understand that.

You were not born with a naturally occurring knowledge of your belief system, god, and the doctrine to which you embrace. You had to be introduced to it, nurtured in and by it, and continually exposed to it in order to indoctrinate you into it as a strong believer with the conviction that it is a truth. Any of that sound familiar? Most of us here suffered the same journey but...

We did not fully capitulate to the pressures of such indoctrination.

Pressure? What pressure, you might ask?


You might not have felt the pressure to be swayed from non belief to belief.


Many people will not accept that which is not revealed to them in some palpable form, to be experienced by the normal human senses, so to them doubt remains a very big player leaving theology an argument rather than a reality, or truth.

These people tend to delve deeply into theology's origins, and presence throughout man's existence, to look for clues that make or break it as a truth. Such personal inquiry will either champion their doubts or defeat them.

Everyone who has exhausted his or her inquiry into theology's veracity cannot honestly claim it defeats their doubts, at best, and on averages such inquiry champions them.

Atheists are people who, through natural curiosity to reveal the truth for themselves (who they really are), rather than take it on faith alone, have concluded that they, and all that exists, are not the work of a god.

So, how do they resolve themselves if they dismiss all notions of gods?

They don't. The question remains unanswered. But, the strength of their conviction lies in their observation that man has committed himself to his imagination, where he created his god(s), and they know that in the safety of the imagination where belief systems live large there can be no further inquisition into the truth of their existence.

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