Can't people just be normal civil human beings?

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mykcob4's picture
Can't people just be normal civil human beings?

People like attention. They like to show off. I haven't any idea why they just do. So let me tell you people something (members of the forum excluded).
If you're gay, don't show me how gay you are.
If you're a male, don't try to impress me with how macho you are.
If you're christian, don't show me how devout you are.
If you're smart, don't try and prove it all the time.
If you're eccentric, don't be obnoxious for the sake of doing so.
If you're a redneck, just shut the fuck up!
If you're black, don't try and be the blackest person that ever lived.
If you're hispanic, don't shove your culture down my throat.
If you're white, don't be the biggest stereotype that ever lived.
ETC!!!!
There is no need for any of this flamboyant bullshit!
So you are something, and you may even be proud of the something you are, but YOUR something isn't more important than anyone else's something. Quit taking yourselves so seriously. You just aren't that important. Most of the time the thing about someone that they feel is so damned important and such a great attribute is the very thing that people can't stand about you. Not the thing that you're proud of being, but the way that you make it the most important thing in the world. I just don't give a shit, and most people don't either. You are who you are. We are who we are. Let's go from there.
Even with all these differences, people are basically the same. Yes, the differences are great even enjoyable, but they aren't the most important thing about even YOU!
I like variety. I think everybody does, but slamming everyone in the face with what YOU think is unique (and it's not) is just childish and aggravating.
Example:
I have a gay friend. He has been my friend for over 30 years. He always invites me to different functions. I go because he is my friend. It's never a date, just a function like a party. Most of his friends are gay. Usually, his boyfriend is there. I hate his boyfriend and here's why. At every function, his boyfriend tries to be the gayest thing that ever lived. Every sentence uttered out of his mouth is a gay innuendo. His superficial "lisp" is overly pronounced. He is so overt in his PDAs that it is sickening. he is acting. He is trying to get attention. My friend tells me that I notice it because I am not gay. I tell him that I think it is because I am not gay that his boyfriend is acting up.
Have you ever been around a bunch of rednecks? They do the same thing. My "cowboy" friend that also invites me to parties and such tries to be the biggest redneck at those parties. The racial and homophobic bad jokes. The ignorant country slang and southern draws. The sexism and objectifying of every woman he sees. The excessive drinking and the obligatory fistfight that follows.
It is absolutely ridiculous!
My christian neighbor can't seem to even keep a conversation going without some JESUS reference. It is EXTREMELY annoying. "I walk with god" bullshit.
Just yesterday she was telling me she couldn't decide whether to make rice or potatoes for dinner. She said "she prayed on it" and god told her potatoes. UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!!!!!
Can't people just be normal civil human beings?

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MCDennis's picture
I don't often disagree with

I don't often disagree with you, but on this one I do. Everyone has the right of freedom of speech and freedom of expression in America. That means we don't get to suggest to Gays: Don't act so gay. We don't get to tell hispanics: Don't celebrate your hispanic heritage.

mykcob4's picture
I'm not suggesting to not act

I'm not suggesting to not act gay or not embrace one's heritage. Not at all. What I am saying is don't rub it in everyone's face. I know it is a fine line and there is a slippery slope. I am just saying that overt expression is not necessary, especially if it isn't who you are. I appreciate your comment and invite differences in opinion. It's not something I would fight or even argue about. Thank you for your comment.

MCDennis's picture
I don't often disagree with

I don't often disagree with you, but on this one I do. Everyone has the right of freedom of speech and freedom of expression in America. That means we don't get to suggest to Gays: Don't act so gay. We don't get to tell hispanics: Don't celebrate your hispanic heritage.

LucyAustralopithecus's picture
i have to agree with you on

i have to agree with you on this, wouldn't it be nice if we could embrace everyone's individualism and cultures.
too many countries now simply want others to conform to their ideals.

Pitar's picture
I had a similar conversation

I had a similar conversation with my oldest son a few minutes ago. We agreed that -

1. If a person is a member of the LGBT, etc, crowd, then they will automatically label all opposition as being at odds with them and live out their lives in a defensive posture. This is normal?

2. If a religioso understands that his faith is in opposition to someone else's faith, or secularism, he too will cop a defensive posture. Normal?

3. If a liberal seeking a utopian existence for all mankind gets ridiculed for having zero grasp on reality by his loyal opposition (conservatives), he will also take a defensive posture. Normal?

4. If a black man has a problem being black because life seems to give favor only to white, then he will also cop a defensive posture for his color. Normal?

5. This list goes on...

But, wait, this defensive posturing is not one versus others. Multiple defensive postures can and are embraced by individuals...

1. A black man who is a southern baptist and claims to be gay is not going to have much to live for if he allows himself to be the victim of his own abuse.

That's right folks, people who are victims of living their lives out defensively have chosen to do so. They have chosen to be victims. They have allowed themselves to be victims by listening to those who profit from creating them no differently than people profit from the religious memes this world has long perpetrated upon mankind. Victim mongering is big business and when attorneys need money, for example, they find ways of twisting laws to open up new avenues for victimizing people for profit.

Being normal doesn't pay and the loss of civility is the price.

mykcob4's picture
Actually Pitar, I have to say

Actually Pitar, I have to say that I disagree. I don't think people victimize themselves, at least in the way you describe.
For example, I am a Liberal but I am not a victim.
The reason for this thread was to describe over the top behavior, not victimization.
I understand that you hate certain segments of society and are very cynical towards those people, but this thread isn't about anything even remotely political.
"Twisting laws", I don't actually think that that is true. A court of law sits in judgment of how representatives present their cases. You might think that lawyers pervert justice but they really don't, they can't. You might decry of their talent to present their case but that isn't a valid argument. Of course, I might have your intention completely wrong, and if so, I apologize.

Sky Pilot's picture
Birds of a feather flock

Birds of a feather flock together.

Don't yoke a camel and an elephant together to plow a field.

Don't associate with people who continually piss you off.

algebe's picture
@mykcob4: "Can't people just

@mykcob4: "Can't people just be normal civil human beings?"

I've been around the sun a lot of times and lived in a lot of different places, but I haven't met too many normal civil human beings. I'm not even sure whether that animal is real or mythical.

A lot of people are trying to prop up their fragile egos by scoring points off somebody else. I believe that the desire to impress is one of the biggest sources of unhappiness.

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