Darwinian Failure of Atheism - Richard Dawkins

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Lee Wallace's picture
When all you've don'e in you

When all you've don'e in you're last post is to quote out of context, & deliberetly so, the only response is to highlight your quote mining!

Alan Travis's picture
IDorES: "When all you've don

IDorES: "When all you've don'e (sic) in you're (sic) last post is to quote out of context, & (sic) deliberetly (sic) so, (sic) the only response is to highlight your quote mining!

This is no "debate" forum. It is a rant room for ignorant atheists. I put the bait out again and again and all the fish rose to it and were reeled in.

Over ninety of you looked at the Prisoner's Dilemma, and nobody could solve it despite your proclaimed *intellectualism*.
The lesson any of you learned? Nothing. You don't learn.

From a letter to Asa Gray, a close friend and Professor of Biology at Harvard University:

"I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science."

LogicFTW's picture
I suppose because your name

I suppose because your name has the word genius in it and you are so good at pointing out other people's grammatical/spelling errors, all us pitiful intellectually inferior atheist should just assume you instantly solved the prisoner's dilemma the first time you saw it.

Wow! How honored should us atheist be that this genius would even talk to us!

GeniusIsDisruptive even has magical powers because he knows everyone he talks to on an anonymous board must be ignorant if they are atheist, and can magically "know" that the person he is talking to that: english is their first language, or that the person is not a young child or possibly even that the person is not dyslexic or has other communication barriers. Additionally he is able to make sweeping generalities because he is never wrong! He is a genius!

Strange...apparently this "genius" does not know the difference between pageviews and unique readers.

Also, this genius person that is so concerned with grammatica/spelling and other small detail in postings, either: failed to properly copy and paste a quote correctly in its entirety.
Or, felt a weird need to tell everyone something he wrote in a letter "to Asa Gray, a close friend and Professor of Biology at Harvard University"

MCDennis's picture
Quote mining at its best:

Quote mining at its best: This is the paragraph from which this sentence was extracted: ""We are machines built by DNA whose purpose is to make more copies of the same DNA. ... This is exactly what we are for. We are machines for propagating DNA, and the propagation of DNA is a self-sustaining process. It is every living object's sole reason for living.""

Why would you mischaracterize this as a ''failure''???

chimp3's picture
Here is a link to the Monkey

Here is a link to the Monkey and Typewriter scenario employed by Dawkins : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

"Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins employs the typing monkey concept in his book The Blind Watchmaker to demonstrate the ability of natural selection to produce biological complexity out of random mutations. In a simulation experiment Dawkins has his weasel program produce the Hamlet phrase METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL, starting from a randomly typed parent, by "breeding" subsequent generations and always choosing the closest match from progeny that are copies of the parent, with random mutations. The chance of the target phrase appearing in a single step is extremely small, yet Dawkins showed that it could be produced rapidly (in about 40 generations) using cumulative selection of phrases. The random choices furnish raw material, while cumulative selection imparts information. As Dawkins acknowledges, however, the weasel program is an imperfect analogy for evolution, as "offspring" phrases were selected "according to the criterion of resemblance to a distant ideal target." In contrast, Dawkins affirms, evolution has no long-term plans and does not progress toward some distant goal (such as humans). The weasel program is instead meant to illustrate the difference between non-random cumulative selection, and random single-step selection.[17] In terms of the typing monkey analogy, this means that Romeo and Juliet could be produced relatively quickly if placed under the constraints of a nonrandom, Darwinian-type selection because the fitness function will tend to preserve in place any letters that happen to match the target text, improving each successive generation of typing monkeys."

Alan Travis's picture
"placed under the constraints

"placed under the constraints" of an evolutionary scientist, with an axe to grind, which of course has absolutely no relationship to reality.

On a far more scientific, more rational basis, a gentleman placed a typewriter in a cage full of monkeys in London. He got gibberish.
And he had to replace the paper and of course the typewriter ribbon repeatedly. Statistics are unmoved by Dawkins' nonsense.
1 character in 80 x 1/80 x 1/80 becomes "impossible" very quickly.

LogicFTW's picture
This "genius" clearly does

This "genius" clearly does not understand infinity.

chimp3's picture
Methinks it is like a weasel!

Methinks it is like a weasel!

Alan Travis's picture
How is it that atheists are

How is it that atheists are so quick to point out their *morality* when morality is immaterial in Darwinian evolution?
Male lions, for example, are only too quick to kill small cubs sired by another male. Muslims have been eagerly murdering Jews and non-Muslims for centuries, while fathering hordes of new terrorists.

Meanwhle atheists languish in the backwaters of survival. Seventy percent of children brought up in atheist families renounce their beliefs and turn to Christianity or another theism. Seventy percent, far higher than any Christian denomination.

Osama bin Laden had more children than a dozen atheists combined. So you atheists lose on so many counts it's absolutely laughable, but you aren't laughing. You're much too angry and hateful to laugh except in the most superficial way.

LogicFTW's picture
You are speaking childish

You are speaking childish gibberish, you make claims you do not back, and others pointed out the flaws. But you just keep repeating your unsupported claims.

xenoview's picture
Evidence to back your claims

Evidence to back your claims about Atheist? Book quoting doesn't count as evidence.

David_Holloway's picture
I love how heated online

I love how heated online debates are. First of all Darwin wasn't an Atheist, he was born a Christian and died a Christian. Second of all, you say there is no evidence of evolution, but there is living proof living in our homes. Dogs, anyone has own and/or bred dogs knows the descented from wolves, omly with them it wasn't "survival of the fittest" it was "survival of the friendliest". We took the wolves that were the friendliest and breed them, until we evolved a new, friendlier version of wolves that live in our homes. If you want to see evolution at work, cross a Labrador with a toy poodle, then cross a pug with a pitbull and the cross the offspring, you will see the characteristics of each breed passed down to the cross breeds. THIS is evolution, working in front of your very eyes.

algebe's picture
@Agnositic Prophet" "Dogs..."

@Agnositic Prophet" "Dogs..."

Dogs are also an example of intelligent design. Only the designer is us, not god. We needed big dogs to guard our homes, so we bred mastiffs and dobermans. We needed little dogs to kill rats so we created Jack Russels. I'm not sure what chihuahuas and pekinese are for, but maybe we made them just because we could. Every domesticated animal, every vegetable, every fruit is the result of selective breeding by intelligent human designers.

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