Title of the news story:
Soon Your Driver’s License Might Not Get You Through Airport Security
To which I say,
“Good. Just because a person is supposedly qualified to drive a multi-ton contraption of death on the roadways, in my opinion, does not qualify them to be a passenger on a jet-liner.”
What say y'all?
rmfr
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I say "fuck the TSA." If someone wants to hijack or blow up a plane, no amount of security in the world will stop them. The fact that we do not have more hijackings is the simple fact that they do not work out well for the hijackers.
Next time you are in an airport novelty shop, look around at all the items that can be turned into weapons. There are wine bottles and soda cans on the service carts and I can turn either of those into a weapon more deadly than a box cutter in five seconds. Some of the cabin crew on Asian airlines have wooden chopsticks in their hair. (Great for stabbing eyes, or any fleshy target.) A camera on a strap upside the head will render anyone unconscious. Pens and pencils are both as deadly as those chopsticks. Does anyone have any idea at all how deadly a woman's high heeled shoe is? Have you noticed that there is a plastic liner in the trash can in the bathroom? You can also get one off of any service cart after passing threw security. (Instant gorrote.), as are shoe strings, boot laces, or laces in vests or skirts or tops, camera straps and computer cords. Take the CD out of your computer and break it in half. (Instant Knife.) Every child who ever took a self defense class knows he or she can roll up that duty free catalog and turn it into a weapon in an instant. Next we got belts and belt buckles, scarves, lap blankets, pillow cases, and a million other things that can be used to strangle the cabin staff. (Who needs a frigging box cutter?) This is just the common stuff. I can probably find over 100 weapons on any plane that could be just as effective and even more lethal than box cutters. FUCK THE TSA. THEY DON'T DO SHIT!
Have to agree. One thing I learned in combat training class in the Navy, the Marine instructor said one thing very first, "EVERYTHING is a weapon. However, the greatest and most powerful weapon is what is in here." pointing at his skull, meaning knowledge.
rmfr
@Cog Re: Improvised weapons
Yep. You nailed it. Totally amazes me sometimes as to how woefully naive and ignorant most people are about such things. Almost amusing to me that I am not allowed to have a simple pair of fingernail clippers in my pocket to board a plane because they (TSA) have to make some sort of over-dramatic appearace of "keeping flights safe". Yet, just as you said, I get through security and look around at all the potential weapons I could use if I were so inclined to do so. And they would be much more effective than a stupid pair of nail clippers. Last flight I was on they actually confiscated a half-used tube of toothpaste from my carry-on bag.... TOOTHPASTE!... WTF??? And the overweight agent checking my bag was looking at me in such disapproval, as though I had just attempted hatch a dastardly plan to send my flight on a fiery nosedive into the ground from thirty thousand feet. I just looked back at him like, "Really, dude?" Then I just chuckled to myself and shook my head in amusement as I collected my bag and headed to my gate. "Security", huh? What a joke... *rolling eyes*...
HOW Americans ever got to the point of putting up with this shit I will never know. One of my favorite things to do is walk into the gift shops and look at how many weapons I could make with the shit they have for sale. It kills time. Metal framed sunglasses, break off one of the ear pieces and it is a wire slashing weapon. Anything glass. I saw commemorative plates in one gift shop. Plastic airplane models on stands. You can not even imagine the damage I could do with a sharpened bit of plastic. Candy in metal tins. Now there is a fucking good idea. Do you know they have shoe horns in the shops that sell shoes. I could sharpen one of those up in an instant.
Here is a good one, Korean red pepper paste. I'm good at flinging poo and if I smeared that into your eyes, you would not be having a very good day. Red pepper candy. Just let it dissolve in your mouth and spit. They were selling rope hammocks, now how fucking smart is that? Blown glass figurines, glass sculptures of the Mother Mary with child or Jesus. (You gotta laugh at that.) Any idea at all how lethal a pair of women's pantyhose can be? Or how about just a sock and an I-phone. Airport Security is complete BULLSHIT!
“Driver License may not be good for anything“
I use mine for driving legally.
Q U I C K ! !
Everybody run and hide.
CyberLN's driving.
rmfr
@CyberN: LOL - Not according to Black's Law Dictionary.
What is DRIVER?
One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle,with horses, mules, or other animals, or a bicycle, tricycle, or motor car, though not a street railroad car. See Davis v. Petrinovich, 112 Ala. 654, 21 South. 344, 36 L. R. A.615; Gen. St. Conn. 1902,
Key phrase there is "EMPLOYED." You my friend are "Traveling" and have no need of a license to do so. You are not driving unless you are a Taxi, Trucker, or working for Uber. Just one more way the Government is controlling your life.
I haven't been to the US this century because of shit like this. You get endless delays and indignities while these incompetents search for terrorists so they can let them on the planes.
Love the country. Love the people. Hate the airports, the airlines, and all the ugly churches everywhere.
@ Algebe
It is no an exercise in "safety" it is an exercise in non warranted employees being able to invade your privacy and control your movements.
I loved the US, I lived there, worked there. Travelled in an out, even had a Green Card. Despite many invitations I just will not go back, intrusive, rude, TSA. Questions about my permanent Visa...even before I travelled....nah, that's not the US I loved.
Same in Australia, our "Border Farce" are intrusive, black uniformed glorified security guards with a nasty attitude. I have given up on travelling to large extent because it is no longer a pleasure to leave and definitely not a pleasure to arrive if you are flying.
Note there is no intrusive security travelling on a bus or the train..... even interstate except a quarantine check at the SA border....go figure how high the threat must be....
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Same here. Love the people, love the country, but I do not go there anymore.
Each day the freedoms and liberties in the USA are slowly being strangled by a government intent on taking complete control of the lives of their citizens.
@David Re: "Each day the freedoms and liberties in the USA are slowly being strangled by a government intent on taking complete control of the lives of their citizens."
I desperately wish I could deny that. However, as disturbing as it may be, it is undeniably true... *frownie face*...
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I would add also:
Each day freedoms and liberties are also being strangled by large corporate interest, of whom at this point mostly control the government.
Google has in their motto: "don't be evil"
But the amount of information available to them? If they wanted to... our government would be the least of our concerns in this arena.
@OP by arakish
Many of the "strange" security measures done by TSA as you guys may have well guessed or stating are more about "control" then about the stated purpose of the TSA to safeguard our public planes. Flying is very safe, even factoring in 9/11 you are 100 times more likely to die on the car trip to/from the airport then on a plane.
Let's examine driver licences real quick. What is the weak point here? The ability to make convincing fake id's or the bored underpaid TSA agent that just looked at 1000 germ covered DL's in a hurried manner for the last hour trying to get people through airport security in a timely manner?
Which is easier if someone really wanted to get on a plane that shouldn't? Trying to make a decent fake that a fresh enthusiastic TSA agent may actually spot pretty easily, or to steal someone else's DL that looks somewhat similar? If anyone has ever had to check ID's for a job for a while, (say someone that serves/sells alcohol,) will figure out pretty quick the picture in the ID rarely actually matches what you see. Match basic skin,hair,eye color and then for guys grow a beard. Done.
TSA agents make between 12-18 dollars an hour. How long would it take to find one that would be impressed by large stacks of cash that they would look the other way as long as that person was not bringing a bomb on board at any one of the hundreds of airports that have TSA security?
Reinforced cockpit doors, and a general public consensus that a hijacked plane = death to all on board pretty much takes care of the 9/11 aspect of plane safety, so one does have to wonder what is all the extra security is for. I have plenty of ideas but can't prove them, and I also do not want to end up on a list somewhere... ;)
I don't plan on returning until after the citizen revolt over martial law.