The failure of New Atheism

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The failure of New Atheism

One problem with promoting atheism as an ideology is definitions; it used to be a popular comeback among atheists to say that "atheism is simply lack of belief in God," but this presupposes a definition of God that Theists have never been able to provide . How do you know you don't believe in God unless you know what it is you're supposed to be not believing in? Suppose your cat was God and you just didn't know it because you never cared for getting your definitions straight?

One way out of this problem is to come up with an alternative definition of atheist, which is what Victor Stenger does in "The New Atheism," defining an atheist as a " materialist.who thinks that science is the best way humanity has yet come up with for understanding the world. "

The problem? It's flat out wrong. Nietzsche was the one who said "God is dead" to begin with, so if Nietzsche isn't an atheist then no one is. But he wasn't a materialist and he didn't think that science was "the best way humanity has yet come up with for understanding the world."
In fact, Nietzsche said that materialism was "one of the best refuted ideas ever put forth," and he wasn't too fond of Dawrins theory of evolution either, instead promoting his own version of evolution based on the Will to Power.

Bertrand Russell wasn't a materialist, neither was Ludwig Wittgenstein, neither are contemporary physicists.

Materialism isn't an escape from metaphysics, its literally just another metaphysical system, enable to accept it I would have to have some coherent idea of "matter" and think that that idea has something to do with reality. Not believing in metaphysics would mean being a Nominalist like me, Wittgenstein and Russell.

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Whitefire13's picture
My cat got hit by a car. God

My cat got hit by a car. God is dead.

Jesus fuckin Christ ...

Cognostic's picture
This is just boring. It's

This is just boring. It's like shooting pigs in the sty. Absolutely no challenge at all.

Fuckyouman666's picture
What's boring?

What's boring?

Tin-Man's picture
@FuckYou Re: "What's boring?

@FuckYou Re: "What's boring?"

You are.... *yaaaaaaawn*......

Sheldon's picture
Fuckyouman666 "What's boring

Fuckyouman666 "What's boring?"

Your fucking thread for a start, it's the same tired old apologetics that attempts to misrepresent atheism, and then uses the same tired old dishonest semantics, and logical fallacies to peddle an unevidenced belief in an archaic superstition.

Tin-Man's picture
Re: OP

Re: OP

What.... The.... Fuck...?... *head tilted to side*...

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Sheldon's picture


Atheism isn't an ideology, and since you are either too fucking stupid to Google a simple word definition, or too fucking dishonest to accept it, I don't fucking care what you think.

Oh the new me is loving this...NEXT...........


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Whitefire13's picture
Sheldon LOL :)

LOL :)

FievelJ's picture
You are coming off as some

You are coming off as some crock who doesn't understand what he is talking about.
Next please.


Ps I do like the pic you chose, but that's the only thing I like.

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"Suppose your cat was god and you just didn't know it because you never cared for getting your definitions straight?"

Atheists not getting the definition of a god straight?


Too rich, to even respond too...but

The disbelief in a god or gods.

Your up. LOL.

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I admit—I have no idea what

I admit—I have no idea what OP is saying.

Randomhero1982's picture
One problem with promoting

One problem with promoting atheism as an ideology

For fuck sake, how many times......

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Umm, isn't this a troll recently banned? The name rings a bell.

Doesn't matter, have no interest in even trying to communicate with it.

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