@White

"But maybe Homer has a chance, I mean after all he doesn’t “do” fuck all in “his name” ..."

Excellent point. One of the great a differences between christian sects;

Some of the protestant sects believe that salvation comes from faith alone.

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Acts 16:31"

They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

1 Corinthians 1:21

"For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe."
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There are MANY more passages.

Catholics teach that" faith without works is dead"

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James 2:14-26

"4 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [c]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [d]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [e]accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
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Of course that's the wonderful thing about the bible. You can find justification for just about anything, especially if you include the Torah

EG Even incest : Lot's daughters, Genesis 19:32: "Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.'"(KJV)

Of course christians today will continue to claim what is wrong today has always been wrong, ignoring biblical contradictions. . Cognitive dissonance is another handy tool used by virtually all believers.

@LogicFTW

"is--- better then eking out a few more uncomfortable years in a retirement home"

Amen to that.

My dad died in 2006 at 87. He was in care for the last 5 years, was demented and miserable for the last two

I didn't see him fo the last two years. He was demented and very abusive Eg:"Who are you? I don't know you .Fuck off and don't come back!". This from a man I never once heard utter even a mild expletive, like 'shit'. I would go home and cry. So I thought "fuck this,I'm not going again"

He had a lovely funeral. Mum had the archbishop of Adelaide come out of retirement. By that time he was a few sammies short of a picnic. The Requiem Mass got a bit surreal in parts, as he repeated some bits and skipped others. My family knew Leonard Faulkner for 50 years. He was a lovely man.

@White

Bill hicks was great ,a pity he died so long.

My favourite dead comic is George Carlin. Liked Richard Prior until he began taking himself seriously. Hate Eddie Murphy, who I think is a misogynist pig. NO? Watch "RAW"

Favourite living comic ; Louis Black.

F0r the record, I still moan "Oh God!". My girlfriend smacked me when I moaned "Oh Baby" .