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Further discussion on Atheism...

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This is the Spectrum of

This is the Spectrum of Theism formulated by Richard Dawkins.

In Order to facilitate further Discussion I would be interested to know where you put yourself on this scale. Dawkins himself self-identified as a "6" but during some interview said that "6.9" was more accurate.

Dawkins posits that "the existence of God is a scientific hypothesis like any other." He goes on to propose a continuous "spectrum of probabilities" between two extremes of opposite certainty, which can be represented by seven "milestones". Dawkins suggests definitive statements to summarize one's place along the spectrum of theistic probability. These "milestones" are:[2]

1. Strong theist. 100 per cent probability of God. In the words of C.G. Jung: "I do not believe, I know."

2. De facto theist. Very high probability but short of 100 per cent. "I don't know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there."

3. Leaning towards theism. Higher than 50 per cent but not very high. "I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God."

4. Completely impartial. Exactly 50 per cent. "God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable."

5. Leaning towards atheism. Lower than 50 per cent but not very low. "I do not know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be skeptical."

6. De facto atheist. Very low probability, but short of zero. "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."

7. Strong atheist. "I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung knows there is one."

As is only fair i will self disclose that i am a "1" Level Theist. (A real Wacko.... ;-) )

IMHO i would say that Just as 1 is a Belief in a God and therefore a Belief System that a 7 is also a Belief System That No God exists.

Would you agree or disagree on those points??

I am just hoping this will clear up how people simply Don't Have a personal belief in at least One Diety and those that are willing to Say That No Deities Exist.

Looking forward to some further Discussion with you all...

Lmale's picture
5 is saying leaning towards

5 is saying leaning towards atheism but 5 is really the true atheist. Id have to say a 6
I dont believe theres no god but consider it highly unlikely based on current human knowledge ofcourse thats always subject to change.

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I really like some of Dawkin

I really like some of Dawkin's work, just like I really like some of Freud's work. however, a lot of either author's writing dissolves into incredibly biased, self righteous drivel.

I'm going to say this particular piece is one of them.

I know you didn't write this, but maybe it's best not to put too much weight into this passage in particular.

I'm one of those atheists that doesn't really feel that I need to measure my *absence* of religion against any arbitrary scale. It implies that we're left with a hole or something and we're measuring it's size - I've never felt that way.

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