My Debate with a Presuppositionalist

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ex-christian_atheist's picture
My Debate with a Presuppositionalist

I did indeed get the debate I was looking for, and it was with a preuppositionalist, to my delight. I'll post a link to the transcript of the debate. I copied and pasted right off my phone. The only changes made were a few spacing issues and one or two misplellings that made it hard to understand. Everything else is exactly as it was typed in Kik.

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ex-christian_atheist's picture
Note: This is, hopefully,

Note: This is, hopefully, just part one of the debate. If he agrees to continue, I will post the rest as well.

Nyarlathotep's picture
wow 6 pages to get him to

wow 6 pages to get him to accept "I think therefore I am".

Zaphod's picture
LOL, yeah pretty much.

LOL, yeah pretty much.

Jeff Vella Leone's picture
yea, he never accepted or

yea, he never accepted or answered decently your question.
Shows what type of dishonest person he is.

good analogy with the eye though.
Good Job

btw avoid saying 100% certain you are a female :p

That was the only mistake you made, overall you smashed him.
Good Job

ex-christian_atheist's picture
I said I could be 100% sure

I said I could be 100% sure about it because I can. Female is just a description we give to certain attributes, which I possess.

Jeff Vella Leone's picture
"Female is just a description

"Female is just a description we give to certain attributes, which I possess."
A description is an interpretation.
You cannot be 100% sure of an interpretation of something.

If you are a brain in a box you might think you are a female but in reality you have no sex at all but are programmed to have those feelings.

I think it is a chance for those theist to attack your position with that you should avoid.
It was wise of you to divert the argument on the "I think therefor I am" though.

but it is up to you.

just pointing it out.

Zaphod's picture
Very well done and executed

Very well done and executed with patience care and just the right amount of tact. ECA

The whole conversation reminds me of the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams bit about the Babel fish where God's logic rules himself out of existence:

The Babel fish is small, yellow, leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the NON-existence of God.
The argument goes like this:
`I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

mysticrose's picture
It was an exciting debate and

It was an exciting debate and you just proved how good you are with the topic. Looking forward for more debates that you will share. I hope a bishop or a priest will have a debate with you.

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